Re: There Was Never Any Reunification

Dear Dr.Martin Tumasang,
Who is this "legally trained individual who knows better?"
Kindly repost your the article here for us to share.You might simply be mistaking a certificate carrier for a "legally trained individual."
All best,
tatah  mentan


From: Tumasang Martin <tumasangm@hotmail.com>
To: cameroon_politics@yahoogroups.com; ambasbay@googlegroups.com; ambazonianationalgroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 8:45 AM
Subject: There Was Never Any Reunification

 
Dear All,
 
Paul Ayah has stated his position clearly on this issue which should be commended. The truth shall set us free. Recently I wrote an article on Herakle farms and one of ours sent a mail that I would have done very well with the article but for the fact that I mentioned that rubbish name of "Southern Cameroons" in the article. Some are so assimilated and scared that the mere mention of the name "Southern Cameroons" is a taboo. And to imagine that the comment came from a legally trained individual who knows better is really sad. Even if he does not like the issue of independence of Southern Cameroons, he should at least know the legal position and respect it.
 
Paul Ayah has again shown that he stands for the truth whether popular with some quarters or not.
 
Regards
 
 
Tumasang
 
> To: cameroon_politics@yahoogroups.com
> From: presidentayah@gmail.com
> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 06:15:24 -0700
> Subject: Re: [cameroon_politics] RE: [SouthernCameroons] There Was Never Any Reunification
>
> Sometime in 2009, the Cameroun's Minister of Communication and
> Government's spokesman granted an interview in which he said the only
> documents in the Secretariat General of the United Nations on the
> independence of Cameroun were the ones relative to the indpendence of
> January 1, 1961. In his end-of-year address to the nation on December
> 31, 2009, the President of the Republic confirmed this in almost
> identical terms.
> That led to Ayah Paul Abine writing the widely read article that the
> Government of Cameroun had "agreed with SCNC". The article was
> published by Eden newspaper, and the paper sold out. It would appear
> that the sales even necessitated a second impression of the paper. I
> have maintained my position publicly since then that there is no
> document on the any legal reunification in several write-ups, radio
> interviews, and television interviews. The Government of Cameroun is
> still to challenge, let alone, contradict me by brandishing any such
> document; or even merely referring to its existence.
> It is a fact too tangible to be controvertible that the United Nations
> prescribed tripartite talks between Southern Cameroons, the Republic
> of Camroun and the Kingdom of Great Britain between February and
> September 30, 1961, to set out the terms of the federation between
> Southern Cameroons and the Republic of Cameroun; methinks, under the
> auspices of the United Nations. The tripartite meeting never held and
> has never held. It is the documents evidencing the terms of the
> federation that had to be deposited with the Secretariat General of
> the United Nations. No such document exists! How does anyone deposit
> something tangible that does not exist?
> Suggesting that in its celebrated corruption, Cameroun may have
> influenced the Secretariat General of the United Nations to accept
> some fictitious documents is dishonourable for the world body; for
> then we are equating the august international body to corrupt
> Cameroun. I would be extremely reluctant even just to apply my mind to
> such possibility!
> The way forward then is for Southern Cameroons to sit at the table
> with the Republic of Cameroun under the auspices of the United Nations
> and agree or disagree on the possibility federating. That is all the
> more probable because time has not given proof to the flimsy argument
> then that Southern Cameroons was not viable enough economically to
> stand on its own feet. Nor does the fact that there were not enough
> educated Southern Cameroonians hold sway today.
> Anyone inimical to this peaceful way forward will take responsibility
> should Southern Cameroonians today or tomorrow abandon the peaceful
> option. That message should not be whittled down by pessimism much
> less betrayal against thirty pieces of silver!
>
> AYAH Paul ABINE
>
> On 6/28/12, Ngwang Gumne <mustakebi@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > Mr Awaah,
> >
> > I have given you enough proof.Peoples Rights are never ending.Southern
> > Cameroonians are a people. No question. Southern Cameroons is a Country
> > under international law.
> > Buea Parliament never went  into any agreement for a union.Even if they did,
> > the SC is not tied to it if it does not work.But, they did not. If anyone
> > says there was a legal union, that person will be the one to prove by
> > showing the instrument; it is not for you to prove.
> > We have all along asked the LRC to show what entitles them to be in the
> > SC.They will not show anything because there is none.
> >
> > How else can I be clearer?
> >
> > Have a nice day.
> >
> > ngwang gumne
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Bens Awaah <benawaah@hotmail.com>
> > To: Cameroon Politics <cameroon_politics@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, 27 June 2012, 21:24
> > Subject: RE: [cameroon_politics] RE: [SouthernCameroons] There Was Never Any
> > Reunification
> >
> >
> >
> > Pa Gumne,
> > Your response suggests to me that there is no definite answer to this
> > concern. It is hard to gloss over what is one of the underpinning arguments
> > for Southern Cameroons' independence. It is important to be ready to give a
> > definite answer whenever a diplomat may ask the same question. You do not
> > want to be caught unprepared by saying you have no proof. It may not serve
> > us well to be dismissive and it may appear as useless employment of my time,
> > but such characterization is in the eye of the beholder.Awaah.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Permit Yourself to Learn to Forgive to be Forgiven"
> >
> >         B.U. Awaah
> >>>>>>>
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > To: cameroon_politics@yahoogroups.com
> > CC: benawaah@hotmail.com
> > From: mustakebi@yahoo.co.uk
> > Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 20:27:04 +0100
> > Subject: Re: [cameroon_politics] RE: [SouthernCameroons] There Was Never Any
> > Reunification
> >
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Even if there was a legal union, either party can opt out at any time it did
> > not consider the union helpful.
> > People should employ their time more usefully away from the fear of unions.
> >
> > ngwang gumne
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Bens Awaah <benawaah@hotmail.com>
> > To: Southern Cameroons <southerncameroon@yahoogroups.com>; Cameroon Politics
> > <cameroon_politics@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, 27 June 2012, 17:34
> > Subject: [cameroon_politics] RE: [SouthernCameroons] There Was Never Any
> > Reunification
> >
> >
> >
> > The assertion that there is no legal union between Southern Cameroons and La
> > Republique du Cameroun is a long-running one. Until an independent diligent
> > investigator, sourcing the United Nations' archives, researches and confirms
> > the authenticity and truthfulness of such claims, there will continue to be
> > this lingering doubt about this contention. Anecdotal, unsubstantiated
> > claims are not enough. Nobody knows what La Repubique du Cameroun has done
> > behind the scene at the United Nations to satisfy this condition in the
> > intervening years between 1961 and 2012.
> > If Honourable Paul Ayah Abine or any other person has investigated and
> > established the veracity of this claim, he/she should publish the full
> > investigation. Dr. Susungi and others seemed to claim in the past that there
> > are documents of the legal union in existence. Who are we to believe? Awaah
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Permit Yourself to Learn to Forgive to be Forgiven"
> >
> >         B.U. Awaah
> >>>>>>>
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > To: SouthernCameroon@yahoogroups.com
> > From: scncusasouth@yahoo.com
> > Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 15:39:26 +0000
> > Subject: [SouthernCameroons] There Was Never Any Reunification
> >
> >
> > There Was Never Any Reunification – Hon. Ayah
> > Tuesday, June 26, 2012
> >
> >
> > Interviewed By Patrick Sianne
> > CameroonPostline -- Roving reporter, Patrick Sianne, recently interviewed
> > Hon. Paul Ayah, Chairman of the People's Action Party, PAP, who aired his
> > views on the Anglophone Problem, going down memory lane and finding no
> > document that binds Anglophone Cameroonians to La République du Cameroun.
> > He also commented on the Albatross Affair, invoking Parliament and
> > insinuating that President Biya is an eligible tenant for Kondengui Prison
> > pertaining to the purchase of the ill-fated presidential aircraft.
> > Ayah, further pursuing the Anglophone problem, the current opposition
> > disunity and, to keep abreast with today's prime issue of Cameroon politics,
> > touches on a private member bill that was introduced in Parliament mooting
> > the creation of a commission of inquiry to investigate the 1995 CAMAIR air
> > disaster in which some Government and CAMAIR officials were allegedly bribed
> > at the peril of the national carrier then and, consequently, the lives of 71
> > people lost when the CAMAIR plane, Le Nyong, crashed in the mangroves in
> > Douala. Read on:
> >
> > Patrick Sianne: Countries are struggling to be united and stay bigger, but
> > from Your statements and postings on the internet, you seemingly do not buy
> > the reunification story. Why?
> >
> > Hon. Paul Ayah: I agree that many countries have made strides in the world
> > because of their sizes due to their population and so people should be
> > together.
> > But the trouble with the system in Cameroon today is that there is no
> > document which shows that the two Cameroons ever came together and as a
> > result of that, officially, we are told that an Anglophone can never be
> > President, which is to say Anglophones are not full citizens of this nation;
> > which is correct because as I said, there is no document which shows that we
> > are part of Cameroon; we the Anglophones. The minimum we require is that we
> > should sit around the table and agree on how we can go on from here because,
> > as of now, there is no document to evidence that we are together."
> > Is everything in order as to how the so-called Albatross Affair has been
> > unfolding with the plucking of Marafa and Inoni for criminal proceedings and
> > the spillovers it is having on the life of the nation where dog eats dog and
> > no one cares?
> > No, I think we are leaving the substance and chasing the shadows. Because
> > there is nothing I know of which shows that the Parliament of Cameroon voted
> > that money. Parliament has the sole jurisdiction to vote the budget of the
> > country. It is often said that there is no imposition without
> > representation. It is Parliament that votes the budget.
> > It is unthinkable that one individual can sit down and decide to take so
> > much of our taxes to buy a plane for himself. That is where the problem
> > started. Whatever we are doing today, we must not lose sight of the fact
> > that it was an illegality from the very beginning and that the person
> > proceeding against others today should be the person to answer first.
> > So, you mean the President may also have a place in Kondengui Prison, like
> > Marafa, Inoni and company?
> > Well… I will say so; though he has his presidential immunity, which protects
> > him from charges.
> >
> > You just returned from Yaounde prematurely for health reasons. However,
> > before leaving Yaounde, you attended the opening session of the ordinary
> > session of the National Assembly where a proposed commission of inquiry into
> > the 1995 CAMAIR crash was rejected. Does that speak something about where we
> > are or aren't with the democratic process?
> > It speaks volumes because in 1995 we had very regrettable loss of
> > Cameroonian lives. One would have thought that if this issue has come up now
> > it is all important that Parliament should probe the matter and come out
> > with findings as to why money that was made available by the State for
> > damages or compensation did not reach the deserved destination which, in
> > this case, were the families of the victims, not State functionaries, be
> > they Ministers. It is a very bad beginning for this session.
> > It seems it is trial time for the nation; we would like to know, Honorable,
> > whether you and the other members of the opposition have a platform or are
> > planning to have one any time soon? If not, why or why not?
> > Errr… We don't have because people have their various approaches. There are
> > people who for one reason or the other would want to protect their
> > self-interest. But I am interested in the general interest. So it is not
> > possible that persons with such divergent interests to the lofty state of
> > agreeing to agree so easily. For my purpose, I feel, as much as we need to
> > be together, it must be within the law.
> > For somebody who is the son of former West Cameroon or Federal Cameroon, one
> > who saw real multi-party democracy in action, your frustration should be
> > mammoth…
> > Very, indeed because it is unthinkable that up to the point that there is
> > loss of life we protect the people who are dishonest by continuing to refuse
> > the setting up of a commission of enquiry. I mean…
> > If you had a message at this crucial juncture tailored particularly to those
> > of your primary cultural community, the Anglophones, what should the message
> > be?
> > The Anglophones should sit down as a group and decide how and whether we, as
> > a people, should go on with the present illegally; or to put things legally
> > correct. That is all we need, and it is the urgency of the moment. For now,
> > we are not together as a matter of law and there is a need either for us to
> > be together or not.
> > And now another message to Cameroonians at large, including our
> > French-speaking neighbours.
> > Cameroonians should understand that you can never ever force any group of
> > persons to be together. It is only important that we know that we all have
> > our different sentiments (and backgrounds, cultures), and it is by agreeing
> > to be together that we can get together.
> > First Published in The Post No 1353
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> The National Strategic Team,
> People's Action Party, PAP
> National Working Secretariat,
> Buea, South West Region,
> Cameroon.
>
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> "I profoundly believe all Cameroonians will some day speak the same
> language, sing the same songs, dance to the same rhythm, dine and wine at
> the same table. When the rich shall cater for the poor and the strong shall
> help the weak, the law shall be supreme, justice and peace shall forever
> reign, if we are honest and believe we can get there. God bless
> Cameroon."Hon. Paul AYAH Abine, Cameroon 2011 Presidential aspirant
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