Re: Re: [MTC Global] Considering industry experience in academic institutions under career advancement scheme [ CAS]

Dear All,

Industry and academics, though their some functional/conceptual parts are overlapping, need people with different attitude, aptitude and skills.

The exchange of industry personnel and faculty proves to be the best strategy if industry-institute inseparable, interwoven, one cannot survive without the other. In fact, in many cases academics follow industry proven practices like work study, SMED, JIT, etc. One more point, industry work-force consists of rank and file to top management. At bottom and top we find dominance of others rather than of egg UG/PG or MBAs. These others come from ITIs, Polytechnics, Arts/Commerce/Science colleges. We never thought of exchange of faculty and industry personnel in this sector but in Egg or Management institutes we consider this as a desirable move. Why? Status, comparable compensation, low risk, job surety and comfort.

The climate in India is not so conducive resulting into misfit of faculty in industry and of industry personnel in academics, save a very few exceptions.

As far as the Law practitioner is concerned a practicing person has rare chances to be a good academician in a law school. As I conceive PIL is an abortive attempt.

Regards.

Yours,

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On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 09:11:31 +0530 wrote
>Hi All,

This discussion is really going good..I have a question on this..
As we all said that industrial experience can be count in the teaching experience in academic service.
But if any faculty was doing full time legal practice as an advocate, can that full time practice also should be count in academic experience & should be given justice to their law practice.

Kindly guide on this also..Can we put a Public Interest Litigation on this to High Court?

Prof. Pranjali M
Pune
Email id:- pranjalim7@gmail.com




On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 8:17 PM, ananda reddy wrote:





True.

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The skill of facilitating learning a particular subject needs to be learnt and practiced. This holds true not only for those who have worked in the industry, it holds true for those who have completed their Ph.D.



I have over 20 years of industry experience, over 10 years of consulting and teaching experience. I have been a faculty member teaching specific subjects, Principal of Colleges, Training Manager & Trainer in the industry and am now an entreprenuer. I have conducted FDPs, Success Seminars for Students, continue to mentor faculty members and also taughtÂsubjects when necessary. Different roles need different skills.


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In my experience, it is all about creating interest in the subject and then helping the student to learn. Learning is the learner's responsibility.


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With Warm Regards,
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Ananda Reddy
Founder Director

ACE Institute for Creating Excellence
33, 1st Main, Sheshadripuram,

Bangalore: 560020
Ph: +918147092023

email: anand@ace-institute.com

URL: www.ace-institute.com


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From: goel.virendra@gmail.com
To: join_mtc@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [MTC Global] Considering industry experience in academic institutions under career advancement scheme [ CAS]

Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 16:25:06 +0530





Can we look at the problem little differently!
Industry experience may make one eligible to be a good leader to manage an educational institute or a good mentor. As far as teaching is concerned it is altogether and different skill and even an experienced person from industry will have to acquire this skill. I have an industrial experience of 48 years, I managed a top ranking CBSE school for 25 years and I mentored the teachers all the time, I conducted even FDP, I have been founder chairman of a engineering and management institute. I used to hold motivational lectures of two hours duration with the students where I could command full attention and respect of students. But if I am asked to teach a subject in the classroom, I do not find myself equipped for that purpose. Reason is very simple â€" I have to go down to understanding frequency of the students to be able to effective from high frequency of thought process and communication and I may not know how to do that. Even in teaching community, I have come across teachers who are very good in their contents but they are ineffective in the classroom.

Regards
Virendra Goel
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From: join_mtc@googlegroups.com [mailto:join_mtc@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chandrakanth Sharma

Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 10:29 PM
To: join_mtc@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [MTC Global] Considering industry experience in academic institutions under career advancement scheme [ CAS]

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do u know even CEOs of 1000 crore companies are not eligible to work as principal or profes
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On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Ashok Matani wrote:


Hon. Sir

Subject : Considering industry experience in academic institutions under career advancement scheme [ CAS]
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[1] The importance of industrial experience Âis that it is useful for teaching subjects namely, energy conversion, thermodynamics, heat transfer, power plant engineering, energy conservation and power plant economics, non-conventional energy sources, industrial management & costing, thermal & fluid power, machine drawing, industrial management, production technology, industrial projects, seminars, etc. Âin the technical education system.

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[2] Some of the academicians having Âonly industry experience have been selected in Universities/ engineering colleges on higher posts in IITs/ IIMs/ Govt Engg colleges
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[3] Persons having industrial exposureÂÂ are nominated on ÂBoard of Governors / Senate members in Autonomous colleges ÂÂapproved by AICTE / UGC Â
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[4]The outputs of technical education systems are mainly appointed in industries.
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[5] The curriculum of technical education systems are industry based and are regularly updated as per needs of industries.
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[6] Case method based on industrial case problems are taught in IITs/IIMs/ majority of technical education institutions throughout the world.
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[7] Industrial visits for teachers and students are regularly conducted for industrial exposure .
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[8] STTPs , seminars, conferences , workshops based on industry problems are highly appreciated by AICTE/ ISTE and grants are sanctioned for these areas.
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[9] Industry-institute-interaction [I-I-I] is the main component of world bank aided / TEQIP projects indicating the importance of industrial experience to the academic world.
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[10] ÂProjects , and seminars of final year students are based on Industry are now compulsory for technical education system studentsÂ
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Considering the importance of Âindustry experience towards improving the quality in the teaching profession , it becomes evident to consider industrial experience [ at any level Âof appointment ] gained after bachelors degree  should be considered for ÂCAS purposes .

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Anil G. Tardeja
President
Shiv Education Foundation
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