RE: The Herakles Farm Palaver


 Hi Louis,
 
we are seldom on the same side of arguments but I agree with you here hundred percent (100%).
 
In fact United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples Article 7 (2) states that "Indigenous peoples have the collective right to live in freedom, peace and security as distinct peoples......." So if they exercise this right to live as distinct people is that tribalism?. Must Cameroon and their herackle proxies infringe on this right and force them to be part of a certain collective called Cameroon?. They are not interested in what Cameroon is doing and they have gained little from Cameroon so they and what is theirs should be left alone. In fact what is wrong with tribalism?. In British politics MPs think of their constituencies before anything else. If you represent a constituency made up of a tribe or tribes and push for their interest, is that tribalism?, if it is, what is wrong with it?.
 
Our problem is not tribalism, it is half baked education where people leave the country and come back and claim to know everything instead of concentrating on what they know. At the end all they have is half education in various fields where they claim to be experts and end up confusing the people on the ground. These jack of all trades and master of none are extremely dangerous. Their titles and expertise change in consonance with the daily topic of discussion. They metamorphose from one issue to another claiming to know more than everyone else. Their greatest expertise is at FAULT FINDING. WHY DID YOU NOT GOOGLE THIS OR THAT, WHY DO YOU ADMIRE THIS OR THAT, WHY ARE YOU A TRIBALIST AND NOT A FEDERALIST OR NATIONALIST, WHY ARE YOUR PEOPLE IN GOVERNMENT NOT SYMPATHETIC FOR THE 2000 KILLED IN NYOS, WHY ARE YOU NOT ENTREPRENEURIAL AND CREATE YOUR OWN JOBS, WHY HAVE YOU NOT REGISTERED YOUR TRIBAL LANDS, WHY DO YOU NOT HAVE LAND TITLE ETC ETC. Always trying to find fault at all and sundry i.e. doing their best to bring all down so that in the process they might be up instead of climbing without bringing others down.
 
Article 8 (1) states that "Indigenous peoples and individuals have a right not to be subjected to forced assimilation or destruction of their culture". If they exercise this right is that tribalism?. Will you force them to be assimilated in some Cameroon project that was conceived without their input and that threatens their way of life?.
 
Who is enlightened here?. Is it those who operate as per UN declarations or those who breach international humanitarian and environmental laws?. All this agama lizard self praise of enlightenment is uncalled for candidly. We have many problems in Cameroon and this importation of individuals with king size ego problems to come and compound our problems is a tragedy indeed.
 
Regards
 
Tumasang.
 
 

Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 08:48:05 +0100
From: louis_egbe@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: Re: The Herakles Farm Palaver
To: ambasbay@googlegroups.com
CC: camnetworks@yahoogroups.com

Mukefor,

Your attacks on oppressed indigenous groups in Cameroon are uncalled for; and far excessively disproportionate. The BLCC and the Orokos are fighting within the framework of national and international law. If you wish that these laws are changed so that minorities can be pushed to extinction that is another matter. I understand some people prefer material wealth to the well-being and survival of the people.  However, not every person is the same or share that view.

 When Obama sanctioned BP to pay up to £20 billion for the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico that destroyed fish, rare birds, people's livelihoods, I didn't see  protagonists of "enlightenment" attack him as a "lazy African" trying to extract or disrupt the work of the "enlightened" BP. However, if it is the turn of Africans trying to protect their own environment, rights and livelihood as well as their own nation, they say they are "tribalists" or benighted.

There are international and national environmental laws that all multinationals and governments must follow in order to operate. This is part of corporate responsibility.  Companies can't just decide what to do in this instance. Any company or government that does not want to work within these international laws must be opposed. Whether this is done by people of the nation, ethnic groups, pressure groups families or individuals is immaterial as long as they are within the laws and their human rights. This has nothing to do with tribalism as you opine.

Mbua

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From: Dennis Tambe <dbtmamfe@hotmail.com>
Subject: The Herakles Farm Palaver: CAN TRIBALISTS BE MEMBERS OF A CIVIL SOCEITY?
To: cameroon_politics@yahoogroups.com, "Justice Mbuh" <ambasos@yahoogroups.com>, camnetworks@yahoogroups.com, ambasbay@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, 18 October, 2012, 7:57

"Those closest to the situation, the people of Cameroon, believe it will help provide food and jobs and enable them to maintain their environment. Consider a comment noted by Chief Norbert Mbille of Batanga in Ndian: "The fear of these environmental NGOs is that without forest they will have no project to execute in our country, and that will mean an end to their mission here. We have given our blessing to the palm oil project because we want development that will eradicate poverty in our community."

Mr Edimo,

What else is new from myopic African tribesmen who fervently believe that our common resources should be reserved for their tribes? Why are you being a coward by picking a fight with a "tribal enemy" in the Western Province rather than one closest to you,
Chief Norbert Mbile of Batanga?

Many lazy black Africans would rather be beggars than use their brains and natural resources to eek an existence.  Are you not aware that Cameroonians from other tribes have bought much of your "Iroko land" for plantation farming?  Keep dreaming about your pristine Iroko land while astute Cameroonians and Heracles get on with the task of economically empowering it and feeding "your people".  Thanks to limited-thinking people like you, black Africa has for long defied the good intentions of the enlightened and benevolent. Cameroonians of good will are increasingly fighting against your selfish tribal agendas for the common good.


The perspective of Heracles in developing these plantations is very laudable to those who spend time thinking about the generalized debilitating poverty that has reduced the average Cameroonian into a panhandler who must remain subservient to bad governance in the country to survive. 

Can we build a cohesive civil society to fight bad governance in Cameroon when tribal-minded Cameroonians seek to covet our collective economic assets and heritage into reservation "tribal assets" like the Orokos and Bakweri (BLCC) are doing?  Are we any different from our so-called tormentors in Yaounde with our divisive tribal mindsets and agendas? 

Can tribalists be members of any civil society?

Mukefor
Enlightened Gubernatorial Aspirant
South West Region.



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From: esimoyamboka@yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 20:31:07 -0700
Subject: [cameroon_politics] The Herakles Farm Palaver

 


Please click on the link below and get a glimpse of the Herakles Farms new Public Relation offensive.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eva-m-clayton/feed-world-protect-planet_b_1968453.html?utm_hp_ref=food&ir=Food
 As you read through, please tell me why Dr. Constantine Chienku, is trying to love the Orokos more than the Oroko people? If plantation is real development, Dr. Chienku should ask HF to move the project to the West Region where he hails from because Ndian division has more plantations  than any other division in the triangle called Cameroon; more crude oil has been rigged from Ndian division for almost five decades more that any division, yet it is the most under developed division in the triangle called Cameroon with not even a kilometer of paved road .
The West Region enjoys the best paved roads in Cameroon today, not because they have many plantations operated there.
  It is certain that if Dr. Constantine Chienku was asked where a hospital complex can be built in Cameroon, he will earmark somewhere in the West region and will never think of Ndian division. Please allow the Orokos to fight for their right for once.



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