Fw: Re: [Cameroonpatriots] Cameroonians



--- On Mon, 12/3/12, kilian seh <kilian_seh@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: kilian seh <kilian_seh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Cameroonpatriots] Cameroonians
To: Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, December 3, 2012, 5:26 PM

 
We need more of the " Mishe Fon" type here on this forum to help educate all the doubting  and confused Tomas.I once once read that The Cameroons was the most Literate Nation in Africa.It is very very disturbing that citizens of La Republique du Cameroun here on this God guided forum meant for Southern Cameroonians for purpose of discuss and sensitization,etc,are disagreeing that there are "Two Cameroons".
Ofcourse,they should be confuse because their leaders have as mission,to distort the history of The Cameroons.From La Republique du Cameroun at Independent to Federal Republic(que) du/of Camero(u)on,then United Republic(que) du/of Camero(u)on and now back to her original name as gained on 01/January/1960.Their hands are getting tired and dirty,and the hammer of Justice will hit very soon.
Why would some of these Tomas not ask themselves as to what happened that,suddenly,after decades,Biya will come on CRTV and announced to the wider world on New Years'eve of 2010 that hence forth National Day will be celebrated yearly on January 01st?.What has happen with the usual 20th May? You can't count how many of them who have gained asylum claiming they are Anglophone Cameroonians.  
Why wena toomuch wan fo gum with we so?
God has already blessed The Southern Cameroons.
Long Live Southern Cameroons-Amen
Fai Ngahchangong.

--- On Sun, 12/2/12, Brice Nitcheu <bnitcheu@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

From: Brice Nitcheu <bnitcheu@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [Cameroonpatriots] Cameroonians
To: "Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com" <Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, December 2, 2012, 2:17 AM

 
Dear Patrick Fosso

Anglophone are Cameroonians who live in Southern Cameroon, and have a British cultural, political and social heritage. Their way of thinking, living, behaving is different from that of their Francophone brothers, who live, think and behave like French. So, you can speak English without be Anglophone. Do you think that a Bamenda man who speaks and even writes French is Francophone? No. My good Friend Boh Herbert speaks and writes French than most average Francophone with university Degree. But he still Anglophone and proud of it

I have members of my family (from Haut Nkam origin) who have been living in Kumba for 40 years now. Every time we meet for family meeting, you can clearly see the difference. 
We are not the same family any more, on the cultural and social point of view.

Thanks

B Nitcheu

From: Azeh Muma <azehmuma@yahoo.co.uk>
To: "Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com" <Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, 1 December 2012, 19:28
Subject: Re: [Cameroonpatriots] Letter to All Cameroonians

 
Sir you are in the dictinary NOT with Cameroon realitiy. Anglophoe = someone whose original tribe is within the now called North West and South West Regions. It has nothing to do with your learning Englsh. Please could you really be serious! For this is the rublish we have been told for long time!

From: PATRICK FOSSO <fopatrick2@yahoo.fr>
To: "Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com" <Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, 1 December 2012, 11:15
Subject: Re: [Cameroonpatriots] Letter to All Cameroonians
 
Hello my dears,
 
I have been reading the comments of people here about this important issue. At the beguinning i refused to react but some point of view, i don't share, obliged me to contribute to this debate.
First of all when we talk about anglophone we reffer to a person who identifies himself as using the english language as mean of communication. this "anglophone" terminology had a meaning in the past since cameroon was divided into two groups of people: Some speaking french and others speaking english. 
But nowadays, due to the dynamism of the population and the possibility for any parent to choose the appropriate educational system for his children, the anglophone terminology is gradually loosing its substance or its meaning. The cameroonian from the north will send his children to english schools and they will become bilingual. Cameroonian from the NW or SW region born in yaoundé or douala and growing up in a bilingual environment will be using both languages with the same importance. I myself i studied bilingual studies at the university of yaoundé as many classmates and we spend a semester in Bamenda for studies. We have parents from both sides of cameroon.
What is the meaning of the terms "Anglophone" and "Francophone" for the new generation of cameroonians, i mean the young generation? My answer? they are meaningless. They belong to the past. The modern cameroonian is bilingual if not multilingual. He speaks french,english, pidgin camfranglais and cameroonian languages and that makes his pride when he is talking to people from other countries who speak only one language.  We want to be called cameroonians. We want to be given a chance to live in a peaceful world. Our nation is only 51 years old and we want to grow by solving our problems gradually. But please let us not fight the "wrong ennemy" "Ne combattons pas le faux combat".
 
Très fraternellement!!!
 
 
Patrick Fosso
De : Azeh Muma <azehmuma@yahoo.co.uk>
À : "Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com" <Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com>
Envoyé le : Vendredi 30 novembre 2012 13h56
Objet : Re: [Cameroonpatriots] Letter to All Cameroonians
 
Please my Francophones Cameroonians the truth is and remains that before this Government in Cameroon appoints somebody the check to see that you are from the former LRC, if it is English then they look for someonewho is of that origin and speak English if not how can you explain that ALL Ambassadors in English speaking countries are francophones USA, UK, Canada, Nigeria, South Africa etc.
Honestly for any person of LRC origin whether with an anglophone culture to REFUSED that there is not anglophone maginalisation s/he is a devil!
Mr. Youmssi please mind your writings!

From: "youmssi@yahoo.com" <youmssi@yahoo.com>
To: Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 30 November 2012, 2:27
Subject: Re: [Cameroonpatriots] Letter to All Cameroonians
 
Cameroon in one country, one nation and one people.
I'm bamileke and I don't know what is anglophone and what is francophone.
Anglophone are free to learn and speak french as well as francophone are free to learn and speak english and get equal chances and advantages.
Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!
From: Azeh Muma <azehmuma@yahoo.co.uk>
Sender: Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 12:35:23 +0000 (GMT)
To: Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com<Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com>
ReplyTo: Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Cameroonpatriots] Letter to All Cameroonians

 
That is very correct I just left that hell due to such frustration. When I think of it, it makes tear come down my eyes.

From: Fon Fon Christopher <fonfonc@yahoo.fr>
To: Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2012, 21:57
Subject: Re: [Cameroonpatriots] Letter to All Cameroonians
 
Please Mr  Ntep  what  you  say  is  quite  true.  But  honestly  there  is  an  anglophone problem  which Mr  Biya  is  very  much  aware  of.  In  fact  that  was  even  why he  came  to  power  because  he  made  Mr  Ahidjo - whose  main  problem  at  that  time  was  the  integration  of  the  two Cameroon- believed  that  he  could  manage that  situation.  This  brought  about  the  20th  may 1972  supposed  peaceful  revolution. Ahidjo  had  faith  in  him.  After  when  he  took  over  office  strange  enough  he  never  appeared  to  the  field  for  the  20th  may  match past  as  if  to  show  the  anglophones  he  sympathized  with  them  and  that  20th  may  was   out  of  place.  In  fact  strange  because  he  was  one  of  the  main  actors.  To  win  the  anglophones  confidence  he  went  further  to  visit  Bamenda  as  the  first  place  in  Cameroon  and  further  Nigeria  out  of  Cameroon. These  instances  made  the  right  thinking  Anglophone  to  believe  that  Mr  Biya  was  for  them.  But  shortly  afterward  after  gaining  that  confidence he  betrayed  the  Anglophones  by  transforming  that  very  20th  may  a  national  holiday  and  11th  february  youth  day .  He  went  further  to  declare  the  Republic  making  all  Anglophone identity  lost.  Ask  a  young  Cameroonian  what  is  the  significance of 11th  february  he  will  never  say  plebiscite because  he  does  not  know - a people s history lost.  If  you  have  ever  worked  in  Cameroon- as  I  have  done-  you  will  know  that  the  Anglophones place  is  that  of  almost  slavery. He  is  a  very  good  technician  but  can never  be given  room  to any  decision making - sad.  You  need  to  be  there  - they  are  second  class  citizens.  This  has  made  the  Cameroonians  from  the  francophone  regions  who  have  studied  english - like  the  people  of  the  11th  province  take  much  advantage.  They  will  declare  at  every  juncture  their  anglophone  seemingly  background  but  will  be  preferred  by  their  brothers  the  francophones.  So  you  see  there  is  a  big  problem.  When  you  want  to  go  further  they  will  bring  the  problem  of  minority  in  the  Cameroonian  context.  Here  they  coin  it  now  to tribal  minority  and  never  talking  of  West  Cameroon  which  joined  their eastern  counterpart  after they - eastern -  had  their  independence  in  1960  excluding  the Anglophone.  And  these  very  anglophones  came  in  as  a  federated state.
People  of  Cameroon  why  do  we  pretend  there  is  no problem. Tell  me  when  an  Anglophone  can  be  a  president?

--- En date de : Jeu 29.11.12, Armand Ntep <Bantuphonic@aol.com> a écrit :

De: Armand Ntep <Bantuphonic@aol.com>
Objet: Re: [Cameroonpatriots] Letter to All Cameroonians
À: Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com
Date: Jeudi 29 novembre 2012, 0h45

 
A Tous bonsoir permettez S'il vous plait de reagir dans ce debat, non en tant que francophone mais plutot en tant que Camerounais et j'allais dire mieux , Africain et citoyen de ce monde. a Mr Mishe qui a initie ce debat se trompe de cible, on ne peut pas vouloir renverser Biya et se plaindre de tous les "francophones", qui sont au depart des Africains comme tout le reste, c'est donner trop d'importance a cette categorie de personnes. La realite est la, des 2 cotes: Anglos et francos, souffrent dans une misere indescriptible... et biensure des 2 cotes , il faut reconnaitre que,d'aucun ont bien beneficie des aides du leadership "Francophone" en place , des bourses ... pour se rendrent aux USA, en Europe...et d;ailleurs continuent meme.. je crois sincerement que Mr Mishe se trompe de cible, Puisque Biya avec l'aide de ces parrains nous ont depasse ( Francos/Anglos), a defaut d'obliger Biya a quitter le pouvoir,laisser ce Mr mourrir de sa propre mort et,a partir de la, esperer un changement , j'espere veritabe et benefique pour tous les Camerounais des 4 coins. Pour moi, que le Prochain President soit du NW, SW C, N, je m'en tape pourvu que nous avancions dans un pays Pleinement libre et democratique. Cette culpabilisation recurrente de certain freres anglophones me fait penser aux reactions de certain de nos freres de la diaspora qui nous accusent de les avoir vendus....Au lieu de pleurer , et toujours culpabiliser les autres, trouvons ensemble le moyen d'avancer pour notre bien et biensure celui de l'Humanite Tous mes respects et bonne soiree aux membres de ce Forum. Armand Ntep (artiste musician). -----Original Message----- From: Francis Njung <njungf@yahoo.com> To: Cameroonpatriots <Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wed, Nov 28, 2012 1:17 pm Subject: Re:[Cameroonpatriots]Open Letter to FRANCOPHONE Cameroonians Its good to know that the best bilingual people since I started as a kid are always from English or Anglo-saxon backgrounds. NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT???


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