Mr Dokta Fred Kemah if a person like you sympertises with the plight of Southern Cameroonians what will a Nigerian do or say?
Mr Kemah only emty vessels like you will simpertice over their mothers corpse.
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Fred.kemah <fred.kemah@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
Hello Albert,
Hope all is well with you and family. In primis you are a Bassa Man. Typically you have occupied the entire Sonara. My take from your correspondence is that You the bassa people despite the unlawful occupation of our land are chronically failing to understand the anglophone people.
There is an element of ignorance which you have denounced through your write-up.
Fred Kemah
London
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Subject: Re: Open Letter to FRANCOPHONE Cameroonians: Part II
From: Mishe Fon <mishefon@yahoo.com>
To: "camnetwork@yahoogroups.com" <camnetwork@yahoogroups.com>,"accdf@yahoogroups.com" <accdf@yahoogroups.com>,"cameroon_politics@yahoogroups.com" <cameroon_politics@yahoogroups.com>,"ambasbay@googlegroups.com" <ambasbay@googlegroups.com>,"mankonforum@yahoogroups.com" <mankonforum@yahoogroups.com>
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Mr. Nguidjol AlbertSorry for the belated reply. I don't have time right now to get into a line by line rebuttal of your initial mail but suffice to say the following: In a bleak and rather convoluted denouement, you assert with disingenous pompous authority that "Anglophones" should be happy and thankful for joining their "Francophone" brothers in La Republique because they were granted the following "Windfall" when they integrated the Cameroon union:: Ward Servants and Nursing Aides were incorporated into the Cameroon Civil Service as Infirmiers Diplomes d,Etat et Sages Femmes; ii) 2nd class soldiers were given ranks of Lieutenants in the army while Police Constables were parachuted into the prestigious ranks of Commissaires de Police while small Clerks in Buea were made Chefs de Service etc. I feel sorry for any Anglophone who does not feel outraged with such random display of uncouth theorization. You just made my case the more easily to explain to doubting "Anglophone" Toms. What could be more insulting than this?Unfortunately Mr. Nguidjol, we've heard that nonsense before and we would not stand for that kind of condescending "Master/Slave" attitude no more. Did you just listen to yourself? Anglophones are not begging for handouts or recognition. The history of Independence and Reunification has been judiciously documented. We voluntarily entered the union as full fledged partners on an equal footing. YES some of our leaders out of naiveté made some errors of judgment but that is no reason for us to continue down a spiral of uncertainty. Forget about what generation I belong to. That is totally irrelevant. We call that type of grand standing in good English as "Pompous magniloquence". This is not about me as an individual. Francophones in their majority have always doubted the authenticity of Anglophone Education. You just displayed that in your email.Whether the entire Francophone population under the yoke of their Government's inadequacies is marginalized, neglected or whatever is totally at cross-currents with the coming together of the Anglophone Southern Cameroons and la Republique du Cameroon to form a Federal TWO States structure. The Francophone Power players of La Republique du Cameroun have blatantly reneged on their obligations viz a viz the terms of the Foumban Accords. That is where we are today…IMPASSE.All that we "the Anglophones" are asking for; ONE LAST TIME; is to sit down as adults and equal partners, Face to Face and Agree to Agree or Agree to Disagree. The union is not working. Enough is enough. The Francophone Government has a choice if they are sincere in dealing with their Anglophone partners. Throwing words and slogans like "Les secessionistes Anglophones"..."If you are not happy here in Cameroon you are free to go back to Nigeria"..."Le Cameroun est Un et Indivisible", "All Cameroonians in Batouri, Ebolowa, Koussiri etc are also marginalized" etc, will simply buttress the resolve of Anglophones who had been sitting on the fence. I don't know of any Anglophone who would like to be called "Biafrais" in his own country.This rubbish has to stop. If there is no political will to do so, then we will resort to any means available to make our voices heard. Anglophones are not begging for any largesse. The very Francophone Civil Servants who are sent out as "Politicians" to go and preach this hatred don't even realize that the bulk (about 60%) of their salaries (and the huge chunk they steal with impunity) comes from the sale of CRUDE OIL, Cameroon Refinery, Tourism, the Agro-Industrial giant CDC....from the Anglophone Southern Cameroon Regions. Do You need statistics? Southern Cameroons remains the "Bread-Basket" of Cameroon, yet we are treated as Second Class citizens.Why, for crying out loud do Anglophones have to assume second fiddle roles? I cannot even fathom the idea that BASSA Francophones have been "Managing the Southern Cameroon Refinery" while Francophone BETI bosses have been sitting at the high table @ SNH to control with impunity the proceeds of the sale of our natural resources...for more than 50 years.How fair is that? For Anglophone Fence-Sitters; are you with me on these arguments? Imagine someone entering your bedroom and forcefully walks you out and screws the nonsense out of your wife. That is exactly what is happening with our Francophone brothers.Are you going to stand on the sidelines as an observer?Now I even hear the SONARA Refinery wells are drying up. And you still want us to stay quiet (parce que tous les Camerounais souffrent) until our Francophone brothers milk out everything from SONARA pipes...Right?... WRONG.I am very sorry sir; but the first part of solving any problem in Cameroon today will start by FIXING the vexing issue of Southern Cameroons. The rest is simply History and Geography. No more, No less.Mishe FonFrom: Albert Nguidjol <albnguidj@yahoo.fr>
To: camnetwork <camnetwork@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 11:06 AM
Subject: Tr : [njvipers] Fw: Re: [camnetwork] Re: Open Letter to FRANCOPHONE Cameroonians
Esu-Ndzem-Usu:J'aime vraiment ce debat car meme s'il blesse l'intime conviction des uns et des autres, quelque part il est le reflet de la mentalite purement camerounaise qui a n'en point douter reste parfois tres puriste, pudique et/ou demagogique selon les cas et les enjeux. Chacun voulant se camper dans son ilot d'objectifs, mon analyse est partiellement prise en compte pour les besoins de la cause et complement ignore la ou je releve LE SUBJECTIF & L'IRREGULARITE". Peut etre qu'il aurait fallu que je fasse un dessin mais en clair vous et moi parlons le meme language mais en de termes differents, avec d'un cote beaucoup de passion et je comprends parfaitement.JE vous prierais aussi de bien vouloir relire le point ou je releve que le reversement des cadres Anglophones dans la Fonction Publique Camerounaise n'a pas du tout obeit aux regles de l'art et je le repete, car si elle a profite a une generation des serviteurs de l'Etat, les gnerations futures ont ete ignorees. par ailleurs, tout a la fin de mon analyse j'ai bien emis un point de vue qui balaie d'un revers de main le statut-quo...peut-etre qu'il fallait que l'ecrive en Anglais ou en Pidgin afin que la portee de ma vision pour l'equilibrisme camerounais Anglophones - Francophones soit tres bien comprise.Je suis un enfant de la Colonisation du Cameroun, de l'Independance du Cameroun, de la Reunification du Cameroun, de l'Etat Unitaire du Cameroun avec le parti unique, du Multipartisme Camerounais avec 150 partis politiques. Sur les bases tant ethniques que politiques, sociales et economiques, les revendications d'un Camerounais ou d'un groupe de Camerounais ne peuvent me laisser indifferent, car en fait dans quel camp je me retrouve? Dans celui des VICTIMES ou dans celui des VICTORIEUX...Vivement que ce debat continue et dans un sens constructif si Yaounde peut nous entendre.Bonne journee.To succeed is not to pile up accomplishment after accomplishment rather to be able to pick yourself up when you fall and as many times as you fall.....A Wise Being.La reussite n'est pas le fait d'aller de succes en succes,mais celui de se relever chaque fois que l'on tombe et autant de fois que l'on tombe...Un Sage.Albert Nguidjol
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De : Edmond <edmond_epitime@yahoo.com>
À : NJVipers NJVipers <njvipers@yahoogroups.com>
Envoyé le : Mercredi 28 novembre 2012 10h30
Objet : [njvipers] Fw: Re: [camnetwork] Re: Open Letter to FRANCOPHONE Cameroonians
Dear All,
I have always considered Mishe Fon as very brilliant. It is not that easy to write the way he does. It can be considered as Njakiri or what ever but there is a lot of brilliance in it not withstanding.
My only contribution here is why talk to Francophones in English in a forum perhaps dominated by Anglophones. What he writes should be translated (google translation plus editing) and sent to francophone fora.
Mishe Fon in the past listed such fora so he should kindly translate and dissiminate to all the fora. His Mbouda french is manageable I think. Na beg Mishe Fon no be order. Talk to them in their language just like Grand Katika for Ntarikon be de talk for pidgin in those days when he be still be something.
Regards
To: cameroon_politics@yahoogroups.com From: nkwut@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 03:07:28 -0800 Subject: Re: [cameroon_politics] Open Letter to FRANCOPHONE CamerooniansMishe Fon, What an outburst! Very unlike you. It,s heartening to see you spring a surprise. I do hope that tomorrow you will not use njakri to water down this frank and tough talk. I hope Francophones, from top to bottom, get the message and get it it straight. More grease... Feko.
--- On Wed, 11/28/12, Esu Ndzem-Usu <ndzemusu@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Esu Ndzem-Usu <ndzemusu@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [camnetwork] Re: Open Letter to FRANCOPHONE Cameroonians
To: "camnetwork@yahoogroups.com" <camnetwork@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, November 28, 2012, 9:43 AM
AlbertAs one who understands the realms of power in Cameroon, it is baffling to read such gaffe from you. Yours is a reflection of the hawkish and slave-master mentality common in most folks who have tasted power in the Cameroons. Giving as examples the transformation of technicians, nurses, foot soldiers to higher ranks in the francophone administration simply displays the disdain you hold for English speaking education. In your hearts of hearts, do you think anyone can compare two educational systems, degree for degree? Do you know the worth of a standard six certificate that was needed to get into Ombe Technical College in those days or the police college or nursing schools in West Cameroon? Would you equate a standard six certificate with a CEPE or a BEPC? It is simply despicable to read such absurdities from you in comparing French diplomas with English certificates. Do you truly think a GCE "A" Level is the same as a Baccalaureate? Your living in American should help you know better.Secondly, the fact that Foncha and Muna failed to see like Dr. Endeley did, that the union of the two states would be problematic does not mean that a union is a one way path. A union is not a trap. People enter unions and find means of leaving (peaceful, violently, etc…) when they find it does not work for them. We saw that in the crumbling of the Soviet Union, Yugoslavia and Sudan. Recently, even in good old America, states are clamoring for secession.Your writings and that of many who think like you, rather than seek to appease the afflicted, show that you are not federalists unionists, the purpose of the union between the two states. You simply act as annexationists. West Cameroon never voted for an annexation or an absorption into the East Cameroon State house. It voted for union under a federal constitution with two distinct and independent states in the likes of US states. The UN records are clear on that. Foncha resigned from Government in protest when he saw the machinations of Ahidjo to destroy the federalist constitution that brought the two states together.No amount of distortion will hide the truth. The federalists in the house should take note and change course otherwise, the obvious is in the making; the disintegration of the Cameroons as in Sudan. ENFrom: Albert Nguidjol <albnguidj@yahoo.fr>
To: "camnetwork@yahoogroups.com" <camnetwork@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 11:15 PM
Subject: Re: [camnetwork] Re: Open Letter to FRANCOPHONE Cameroonians
Etant donne que ma réponse ne parviendra pas a tous les autres forums dont je ne suis pas membre, Cher Frere Ofege Ntemfac je vous prie de bien vouloir la faire suivre a tous les destinataires de votre email initial: IMPRESSIVE.Pour rentrer dans le vif du sujet, je dois souligner que c'est avec la mort dans l'ame que j'ai parcouru la lettre ouverte très pathétique, émotionnelle et très amère que Mishe Fon adresse aux Camerounais Francophones. Ne connaissant pas personnellement ce frère, je suis dans l'impossibilité de déterminer la tranche d'âge a laquelle il appartient, toutefois je me permets de deviner d'une part que Mishe Fon serait d'une génération plus jeune que l'Indépendance et la Reunification du Cameroun et d'autre par je voudrais avoir envie de penser que Mishe Fon ignore totalement les rouages de l'administration camerounaise et partant l'ordre et la bienséance du protocole du gouvernement camerounais.A titre d'exemple les Vice Premiers Ministres auxquels il fait allusion ne font pas partie du Premier Ministere comme il pense, c'est juste un rang protocolaire. Par exemple Mr. Niat était au Ministere des Mines et de l'Energie, Amadou Ali était au Ministere de la Justice et Mr Nkuete était au Ministere de l'Agriculture. En fait, dans la réalité du Gouvernement Camerounais, et afin de sortir de nos petites analyses claniques et tribales, souffrez que je vous dise que les vrais pouvoirs du Premier Ministre sont plutôt détenus par le Secretaire General de la Presidence de la Republique pour des raisons qu'il ne m'échoit pas de clarifier ici.Pour revenir au corps meme de la lettre de Mishe Fon, je dirai que pour l'organisation actuelle (bonne ou mauvaise) au niveau de la répartition ethno-politique des postes au gouvernement du Cameroun, mes frères et soeurs Anglophones dont je comprends très bien le désarroi et la frustration doivent plutôt se retourner contre John Ngu Foncha et Salomon Tandeng Muna qui ne sont pas Francophones et qui ont accepte, pour des raisons que j'ignore également, de jouer les seconds rôles lors de la Reunification en 1961 mais surtout lors de la formation de l'état unitaire en 1972.Si nos frères du Nord et Sud Ouest veulent donc faire la lutte du fameux "Triangle Equilateral": NORD, BETI-BULU, ANGLOPHONES, les autres Camerounais originaires d'autres régions de chez nous les regardent, seulement qu'ils sachent que les gens qui ont meme durement contribue a l'indépendance des Anglophones et des Francophones du Cameroun n'ont jamais eu de Premier Ministre et n'ont meme pas de routes, encore moins l'électricité chez eux, alors que le Barrage d'Alucam et celui de SongLoulou qui alimentent une bonne partie du Cameroun est a un pas d'eux...rires.Pour être beaucoup plus pratiques et beaucoup réalistes, je dirai en passant que l'équilibre entre les langues en tant que donnée culturelle, sociale etc... n'établit pas de fait ou de force l'équilibre numérique, car nous sommes en politiques et la politique c'est la loi du nombre qui prévaut. Sur un tout autre point je dirai également qu'a l'instar de Jesus qui dit dans la Bible que l'on ne vit pas que de pain, je dirai qu'il n'ya pas que le pétrole pour faire vivre ou développer un peuple ou un pays...la preuve.Ahmadou Ahidjo, quoi que l'on dise, a été un très fin policier et dans beaucoup d'accords qu'il a passes avec son entourage, a tous les coups il a pris "la part du lion" pour ne pas dire le plus gros morceau. C'est d'ailleurs pour cela que le courroux de la Gauche Francaise lui a coute son poste en 1982. Il faudrait que nos frères et soeurs Anglophones n'oublient surtout pas que pour la Reunification du Cameroun en 1961 une bonne partie Anglo-saxonne du Cameroun avait decide de rester rattachée au Nigeria, tandis que l'autre fidèle a John Ngu Foncha a très volontairement accepte les accords de Foumban. Apres la création de "la fédération Cameroun Occidental et Cameroon Oriental", Ahidjo est ses loups ont offert beaucoup de facilites ephemeres a la génération intellectuelle anglophone de l'époque, ceci uniquement au niveau de notre fonction publique; c'est ainsi que pour la petite histoire, des aides soignants passaient Infirmiers et sage femmes, les moniteurs d'écoles passaient instituteurs et professeurs, des soldats de 2e classe passaient sous officiers ou officiers, des contre maitres passaient techniciens supérieurs ou ingénieurs etc...Bien sur que l'étau des emplois publics se resserrant avec l'harmonisation académique, l'usure du temps et les difficultés liées a la très difficile conjoncture économique mondiale de l'heure, les jeunes générations d'Anglophones se sentent bien évidemment lèses, ce qui justifie leur frustration et parfois leur animosité vis a vis de leurs frères et soeurs Francophones meme si ces derniers ne les prennent vraiment pas pour les CITOYENS CAMEROUNAIS de seconde classe ou de basse catégorie.On ne change pas les règles de jeu a la mi temps d'un match; toutefois on peut demander aux organisateurs d'une compétition de faire un règlement spécial de cette compétition. Dans le cas de notre pays, vivement que des hommes plus intègres, courageux et objectifs viennent aux affaires pour essayer de dissiper certains malentendus de fond et de forme qui nous divisent au dela meme du problème Anglo-Franco.Tres fraternellement.To succeed is not to pile up accomplishment after accomplishment rather to be able to pick yourself up when you fall and as many times as you fall.....A Wise Being.La reussite n'est pas le fait d'aller de succes en succes,mais celui de se relever chaque fois que l'on tombe et autant de fois que l'on tombe...Un Sage.Albert NguidjolDe : Ofege Ntemfac <ntemfacnchwete@gmail.com>
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Envoyé le : Mardi 27 novembre 2012 12h08
Objet : [camnetwork] Re: Open Letter to FRANCOPHONE Cameroonians
IMPRESSIVE!On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Mishe Fon <mishefon@yahoo.com> wrote:-- The thing always happens that you really believe in; and the belief in a thing makes it happen.To My Francophone Cameroonian Brothers and Sisters: I AM VERY ANGRYNot so fast. You may be the only ones who do not realize or accept that there are two distinct Cameroons: Francophone and Anglophone. Whether this is a historical error by those who colonized us or not is totally immaterial in this discussion. Decree or no Decree, Anglophones make up what is now known as the NW and SW Regions while the Francophones constitute the rest. It becomes a matter of stylistics when you delve into irrelevant epistles like; Anglophones are in Yaounde, Douala and other major Cameroon cities. Where did you want them to be? To Die "Hungry" in their impoverished (by the diktats of Francophone controlled Government unproductive policies) Provinces? Even in the Yaounde and Douala that you claim Anglophones are resident...Are they still not considered as "Second Class Cameroonians"? Because Francophones take one Figure Head and put as Prime Minister, Anglophones should now jump up and claim effective reunification? For Whia?Are you crazy? What powers does Yang Philemon really control? Can he appoint even a Chief of Service? Can he decide on anything without the usual "One Party Mentality Slogan"..."By Orders of the Head Of State, the supreme Commander of the Armed Forces, Distinguished Leader of our Party, the Father of Cameroon Nation, Founder of Advanced Democracy, publisher of Pour le Liberalisme Communautaire, Chief of Chiefs, Doctor Honoris Causa, his Excellency President"..Bla Bla Bla . You tell me, Mr POKAM Pat10 and other Francophones who think like you (I know you are a Francophone and may see that as normal but); who starts and ends every sentence like the one above and still has any INDEPENDENT THINKING available in his cerebellum.The Francophones started putting Anglophones as Prime Minister after ODONTOL (SARDOU HAYATOU) organized the Tripartite SCAM in Yaounde and was already projecting himself as "Presidential Material". Remember before him was AYANG LUC (who has been forgotten there at one useless office some where around Ngoa Ekelle called Conseil Economic et Social); then BELLO BOUBA MY-GARRI (who also wanted to be president so badly that he suspected himself of having participated in the Toupouri Military Coup Plot to oust Biya and ran away to Nigeria before metamorphing into a UNDP/CPDM clone). His predecessor PM actually was tonton BIYA himself. Bello Bouba is actually one of the reasons why Anglophones will and should never trust Francophones.Anyways; so the Francophones decided that due to the "Passive nature" of Anglophones "Who Should Never contemplate being President of Cameroon"...Let us Give them the Post of Prime Minister. PERIOD.After serious debates, they capitulated to Biya's idea and Pa ACHIDI ACHU was born. In the process, the small Powers that hitherto PM,s wield was completely removed and to further control the poor Baforchu man, he was slammed TWO Vice Prime Ministers; a certain Bangangte man called NIAT NJIPENDI (who never relinquished his lucrative job as DeGe of SONEL) and I think the other guy was AHMADOU ALI. So "vat to do?" Our broda sensing that "wata don pass garri" transformed the Prime Ministers Residence into circus of Cultural Displays and artifacts. Every Saturday at the Lake Side Residence, we were "Partying" like nonsense. To crown the Circus, Paul Biya appointed him as Campaign Manager for the rigged Presidential Elections of that era to knock off his Santa brother and rival NI JOHN FRU NDI of the SDF who was very popular in Bamenda circles at that time. That is how names like Forjindam, John B Ndeh, Atanga, Abety Peter, Nico Halle(and other CPDM hawks) came into the limelight.Enter PM Ngia Mola PETER MAFANY MUSONGE (and the rivalry and hatred between the two sister Provinces of NW & SW goes public and nuclear...the NW angry that dem dom move garri 4 we mop and the SW happy that "make dem kommot, dem own kam no go don too much"). Meanwhile Pa is still DeGe of CDC until he himself suggested his replacement by his smol broad, Band-Boy Njalla Kwan.Enter Mola Chief INONI EPHRAIM (self proclaimed Bakingili Chief) confirmed technocrat and someone who had actually meandered the Francophone Civil structure...could not do JACK because he had subordinates who were more powerful than he was. He could not even chair nor call a Cabinet meeting without approval from his Francophone bosses.Enter PHILEMON YANG (the "moumou=discret Diplomat from Kumbo" poor guy had been hiding/forgotten as an Ambassador quietly there in Canada for about twenty something years, doing his small deals and chopping his life awaiting retirement and BOOM...You are the PM of Cameroon). Go and ask him; He will tell you the truth. The man has no Powers to do anything. The Francophones are in charge. Anglophones are eternal second fiddles.Adjoints de ceci, Adjoints de cela. WHY? Some man na Ngrung Beep?In conclusion, the Francophones have mercilessly SCREWED Anglophones for far too long and I can assure you, this will have to stop...VERY SOON. We call that in Political Science (which I never studied) Humanistic Existential Political Conundrum (HEPC). It is either you accept this as a fact and we sit down and TALK AS EQUALS and come to reasonable mature conclusions or face the eventual consequences. Enough is Enough. We are not your slaves. The ball is in the camp of all Francophones who are playing a game of the Ostrich here. For those Anglophones who feel there is nothing wrong with the status quo because they are "Chopping with the Big Guys; I have one word for you also: SHUT THE FUCK UP.Remember, we have not even started to discuss the plundering of our Natural resources (SONARA, CDC etc).Mishe Fon__._,_.___Camnetwork is the premier Cameroon/Cameroun forum since 1997.![]()
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