Mr. Kima Tabong, There is no such thing as adapt to chains. Southern Cameroons is an Independent entity; and that there is no such notion as "adaptation". We cannot accept slavery; it has never been accepted anywhere since this world began. Whether West Cameroon/Southern Cameroons was not perfect or not is entirely immaterial as there is no perfect state. Two things: 1. Freedom 2. Independence. This will happen whether La Republique du Cameroun wants it or not. In another vein, this does not mean people are forced to believe in the SC idea. Yet, that those who may not believe or support it does not invalidate the inalienable rights of SC people to freedom and enjoyment of development. Let the people speak. They spoke in 1961 and they will speak again. LRC had nothing to do with this vote and they will have nothing to do with it again in future. The vote by SC alone was a vote for independence and why only SC people took part. This has nothing to do with "adaptation". You adapt to a free, fair and just society and not to a system that is planning to extinguish our people. No peoples have been known to support or instigate their own suicide. The time has come to tell these slave-drivers to either respect our wishes or leave; and this will come to pass soon. Mbua
--- On Sun, 2/12/12, KIMA TABONG <bakebe1@msn.com> wrote:
From: KIMA TABONG <bakebe1@msn.com>
Subject: RE: [Cameroonpatriots] Letter to All Cameroonians
To: "Ambasbay Ambasbay" <ambasbay@googlegroups.com>, cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com, "manyu net" <manyunet@aufoundation.org>
Cc: coalitionn@yahoo.com, "bohmanyu" <bohmanyu@yahoogroups.com>, "Bakebe Bakebe" <bakebe@yahoogroups.com>, "noma noma-manyu" <noma-manyu@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, 2 December, 2012, 18:25
George, Our brothers on the other side of the Mungo River have deliberately refused to see the Southern Cameroons as a unique and distinct historical, cultural, legal, and geographical entity. Even some brothers and sisters from our side of the divide see it simplistically as a linguistic "problem". Language is the vehicle that carries culture. In fact, language is a cultural necessity. There can be no language without culture and no culture without language. The dominant role that English or French plays in the expression of thought in Cameroon is what compelled the venerable A.D. Mengot to boldly declare that the "African culture is moribund" and called for its restoration. He rightly believed that language is culture and culture is language. However, culture or language is not coterminous with nation or state. The English language alone does not define the Southern Cameroons people who share unique and distinct historical, geographical, legal and metaphysical facts.
The powers in Yaounde cannot play the Ostrich anymore as you rightly stated in your piece below. The spectacle in our country is disturbing. Our body politic has been over-ridden by embezzlement, nepotism, corruption, rugged individualism and an ethos which cynically dictates that the general welfare does not matter any more. This state of affairs has created another divide: the many Cameroonians who live miserable lives versus the few heartless, grasping and self-indulging elite. These embittered mutually hating groups of Cameroonians is a recipe for a disaster that can be averted. Two major fault lines is not what any leader of any country would want to contend with.
Solving the Southern Cameroons problem is therefore a matter of urgency for our country. I do not and cannot pretend to have all the answers. I do however know that the solution cannot be an archaeological exercise whereby we excavate the past and live by it as some in the SCNC would like to see; the Southern Cameroons and its subsequent incarnation called West Cameroon was not without its imperfections. The solution must be devoid of the overly enthusiastic and naive tendencies (as expressed by many in this forum) to view and laud every aspect of Southern Cameroons as if it were the quintessence of goodness itself. Any solution must also take cognizance of the fact that times have changed since 1961 and must therefore adapt to the changing times and the new reality.
Eyong Tabong Kima (ETK)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 10:27:19 +0000 From: hurtc2003@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: [Cameroonpatriots] Letter to All Cameroonians To: Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com CC: ambasbay@googlegroups.com; coalitionn@yahoo.com Mr. Patrick you, like those before you have got it all wrong again. Is it by error or by commission? Its high time this type of ostrich behaviour of hiding you heads and exposing your entire body by refusing to accept what is right be abandon, for legitimacy to reign. The real issue here is that you and your ilks do not wanna brave the political badfaith by some or all the francophone leadership after the 1961 socalled reunification between the British Southern Cameroons (not anglophones) with the independent Cameroun Republic. This argument have been systematically and persistently presented by the former and present leadership of the Southern Cameroons. The SCNC did not come from space or as a desire to restore our suppressed sovereignty but rather it was a dream to keep a failed union amended through constitutional remedies. What happened, your Constitutional droners spite fire and refused any meaningful change and went along to adopt and enact another trash in the name of a new Constitution in 1996 with institutions propose by the Standing committee of AAC, like the SENATE and the House of Chiefs.Where are these institutions after close to13 years, if I may ask? You folks will accept atleast that elections in Cameroun have never been free and fair despite the victories by the SDF in 1992, and there was nothing any of your leaders did about it. So tell me do we continue to morgage our children's future in a failed political enterprise or do you want us to go the stupid way so that France and NATO would use propaganda and armes to annihilate our people and territory as prophesised by PAT0000000? We still believe in our legitimate rights before international law and sooner or later the same bodies will put an end to these unfortunate situation. Remember all the exchanges here are cabled to the UN and relevant organs as evidence of the threats and plans for a final solution, genocide in Southern Cameroons. God save us! Good day! george From: PATRICK FOSSO <fopatrick2@yahoo.fr>
To: "Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com" <Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, 1 December 2012, 17:15
Subject: Re: [Cameroonpatriots] Letter to All Cameroonians
Hello my dears, I have been reading the comments of people here about this important issue. At the beguinning i refused to react but some point of view, i don't share, obliged me to contribute to this debate. First of all when we talk about anglophone we reffer to a person who identifies himself as using the english language as mean of communication. this "anglophone" terminology had a meaning in the past since cameroon was divided into two groups of people: Some speaking french and others speaking english. But nowadays, due to the dynamism of the population and the possibility for any parent to choose the appropriate educational system for his children, the anglophone terminology is gradually loosing its substance or its meaning. The cameroonian from the north will send his children to english schools and they will become bilingual. Cameroonian from the NW or SW region born in yaoundé or douala and growing up in a bilingual environment will be using both languages with the same importance. I myself i studied bilingual studies at the university of yaoundé as many classmates and we spend a semester in Bamenda for studies. We have parents from both sides of cameroon. What is the meaning of the terms "Anglophone" and "Francophone" for the new generation of cameroonians, i mean the young generation? My answer? they are meaningless. They belong to the past. The modern cameroonian is bilingual if not multilingual. He speaks french,english, pidgin camfranglais and cameroonian languages and that makes his pride when he is talking to people from other countries who speak only one language. We want to be called cameroonians. We want to be given a chance to live in a peaceful world. Our nation is only 51 years old and we want to grow by solving our problems gradually. But please let us not fight the "wrong ennemy" "Ne combattons pas le faux combat". Très fraternellement!!! Patrick Fosso De : Azeh Muma <azehmuma@yahoo.co.uk>
À : "Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com" <Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com>
Envoyé le : Vendredi 30 novembre 2012 13h56
Objet : Re: [Cameroonpatriots] Letter to All Cameroonians
Please my Francophones Cameroonians the truth is and remains that before this Government in Cameroon appoints somebody the check to see that you are from the former LRC, if it is English then they look for someonewho is of that origin and speak English if not how can you explain that ALL Ambassadors in English speaking countries are francophones USA, UK, Canada, Nigeria, South Africa etc. Honestly for any person of LRC origin whether with an anglophone culture to REFUSED that there is not anglophone maginalisation s/he is a devil! Mr. Youmssi please mind your writings!
From: "youmssi@yahoo.com" <youmssi@yahoo.com>
To: Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 30 November 2012, 2:27
Subject: Re: [Cameroonpatriots] Letter to All Cameroonians
Cameroon in one country, one nation and one people. I'm bamileke and I don't know what is anglophone and what is francophone. Anglophone are free to learn and speak french as well as francophone are free to learn and speak english and get equal chances and advantages. Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! From: Azeh Muma <azehmuma@yahoo.co.uk> Sender: Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 12:35:23 +0000 (GMT) To: Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com<Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com> ReplyTo: Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cameroonpatriots] Letter to All Cameroonians
That is very correct I just left that hell due to such frustration. When I think of it, it makes tear come down my eyes.
From: Fon Fon Christopher <fonfonc@yahoo.fr>
To: Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2012, 21:57
Subject: Re: [Cameroonpatriots] Letter to All Cameroonians
Please Mr Ntep what you say is quite true. But honestly there is an anglophone problem which Mr Biya is very much aware of. In fact that was even why he came to power because he made Mr Ahidjo - whose main problem at that time was the integration of the two Cameroon- believed that he could manage that situation. This brought about the 20th may 1972 supposed peaceful revolution. Ahidjo had faith in him. After when he took over office strange enough he never appeared to the field for the 20th may match past as if to show the anglophones he sympathized with them and that 20th may was out of place. In fact strange because he was one of the main actors. To win the anglophones confidence he went further to visit Bamenda as the first place in Cameroon and further Nigeria out of Cameroon. These instances made the right thinking Anglophone to believe that Mr Biya was for them. But shortly afterward after gaining that confidence he betrayed the Anglophones by transforming that very 20th may a national holiday and 11th february youth day . He went further to declare the Republic making all Anglophone identity lost. Ask a young Cameroonian what is the significance of 11th february he will never say plebiscite because he does not know - a people s history lost. If you have ever worked in Cameroon- as I have done- you will know that the Anglophones place is that of almost slavery. He is a very good technician but can never be given room to any decision making - sad. You need to be there - they are second class citizens. This has made the Cameroonians from the francophone regions who have studied english - like the people of the 11th province take much advantage. They will declare at every juncture their anglophone seemingly background but will be preferred by their brothers the francophones. So you see there is a big problem. When you want to go further they will bring the problem of minority in the Cameroonian context. Here they coin it now to tribal minority and never talking of West Cameroon which joined their eastern counterpart after they - eastern - had their independence in 1960 excluding the Anglophone. And these very anglophones came in as a federated state.
People of Cameroon why do we pretend there is no problem. Tell me when an Anglophone can be a president?
--- En date de : Jeu 29.11.12, Armand Ntep <Bantuphonic@aol.com> a écrit :
De: Armand Ntep <Bantuphonic@aol.com>
Objet: Re: [Cameroonpatriots] Letter to All Cameroonians
À: Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com
Date: Jeudi 29 novembre 2012, 0h45
A Tous bonsoir permettez S'il vous plait de reagir dans ce debat, non en tant que francophone mais plutot en tant que Camerounais et j'allais dire mieux , Africain et citoyen de ce monde. a Mr Mishe qui a initie ce debat se trompe de cible, on ne peut pas vouloir renverser Biya et se plaindre de tous les "francophones", qui sont au depart des Africains comme tout le reste, c'est donner trop d'importance a cette categorie de personnes. La realite est la, des 2 cotes: Anglos et francos, souffrent dans une misere indescriptible... et biensure des 2 cotes , il faut reconnaitre que,d'aucun ont bien beneficie des aides du leadership "Francophone" en place , des bourses ... pour se rendrent aux USA, en Europe...et d;ailleurs continuent meme.. je crois sincerement que Mr Mishe se trompe de cible, Puisque Biya avec l'aide de ces parrains nous ont depasse ( Francos/Anglos), a defaut d'obliger Biya a quitter le pouvoir,laisser ce Mr mourrir de sa propre mort et,a partir de la, esperer un changement , j'espere veritabe et benefique pour tous les Camerounais des 4 coins. Pour moi, que le Prochain President soit du NW, SW C, N, je m'en tape pourvu que nous avancions dans un pays Pleinement libre et democratique. Cette culpabilisation recurrente de certain freres anglophones me fait penser aux reactions de certain de nos freres de la diaspora qui nous accusent de les avoir vendus....Au lieu de pleurer , et toujours culpabiliser les autres, trouvons ensemble le moyen d'avancer pour notre bien et biensure celui de l'Humanite Tous mes respects et bonne soiree aux membres de ce Forum. Armand Ntep (artiste musician). -----Original Message----- From: Francis Njung < njungf@yahoo.com> To: Cameroonpatriots < Cameroonpatriots@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wed, Nov 28, 2012 1:17 pm Subject: Re:[Cameroonpatriots]Open Letter to FRANCOPHONE Cameroonians Its good to know that the best bilingual people since I started as a kid are always from English or Anglo-saxon backgrounds. NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT???
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