Re: [ACEsthetics] 2.3% Obama tax plus.

Tad,
 
I read the original proposed law at the time, and I don't recall ever seeing such an item.
There was language for a provider tax, but I didn't catch that it was direct from the bank accounts, etc.  I'm guessing that one would be pretty tough to get past the legislatures.
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Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [ACEsthetics] 2.3% Obama tax plus.

What is the latest on the talk about the government taking 1% of all bank deposits and 1% of all bank withdrawals to help pay for Obamacare?  
I also feel very uncomfortable with the IRS having direct access to our bank accounts.  Does that start in 2014?

Will be interesting to watch how this plays out.

Tad

On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Jeff Rodgers <drrodgers@drrodgers.com> wrote:
Now THIS is what ACE is about right?!  :]

Welcome back Guy!  

Jeff L. Rodgers, DMD, PC
Atlanta, GA


On Jan 28, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Guy Moorman <gmoor@windstream.net> wrote:


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Here's the deal.  The Medicare system is broke an broken.  Some people would cut it.  Obama refuses to cut it.  I think he should raise the taxes on people like me who are still working a making a substantial income.  Why should someone making a quarter of a million dollars a year not pay a little more tax for Medicare to help pull it out of the ditch?  If they charge us 2.3%, it will just be passed on to the patient so it is the patient being taxed…not us. 
 
When we got flush back in the Clinton days all the politicos state and federal got all hot and turned on to big spending.  It is amazing how they ignore history.  During those days, my wife and I stored away every drop we could shelter or defer because we knew it was not going to last forever.  Right now small hospitals are dying.  If you live in a town with a hospital less than 200 beds, there is an 80% chance it will be sold or closed in the next five years because Medicare reimbursements are going down to hospitals and physicians and dentists if we are going get paid for MAD appliances from Medicare.  But some good things are coming I feel.  Ambulatory sleep tests will take the place of in house sleep studies unless it is done in a hospital.  Mad appliances will be on equal footing with CPAPs IF we can get the cost down.  I fear more and more dental procedures will be covered so I'd tell everyone to get a Medicare number.  I'm starting Monday because I think I'm going to be doing more MAD appliances and ambulatory sleep tests.  We undercharge for sleep tests now. 
 
It is a simple fact that something has to be done about the cost of healthcare.  Either the Republicans or the Democrats will have to do it and cut out the damned Tea POTs.  They are screwing up the entire system.  Concierge medicine is out there but there is only room for so many and in the smaller towns there is no room.  We are going to have to learn to live and function on smaller percentages.  My partner is having a heart attack because our overhead is 70%.  Hell, he's treating Medicaid and several plans.  The cost of treating these people does not go down.  If you cut me out and looked at my overhead, it would probably be 50% even though I'm doing most of the crown and bridge and buying the endo files.  I'm seeing fee for service patients but soon there will be none of those…not in my lifetime but certainly in his.  You need to learn to live on lower fees.  Right now dentistry is looked at as possibly the best profession to be in.  I'd just as soon Forbes had not done that.  We do not need any lights shining on us. 
 
We were again told at the GHA meeting that if our hospital could not survive on Medicare fees close your doors because that's what is going to happen.  All insurance is negotiated and they negotiate to Medicare fees.  The good news is the State is moving towards a single fee rather than paying smaller hospitals in small towns less than big hospitals like Piedmont and Northside in Atlanta.  A single fee will mean our fees will increase.  You young people load your weapons because it is coming. My partner told me he wished I had not told him that because everything I'd told him in the past 13 years had come to pass.
 
Guy W. Moorman, Jr., D.D.S.
The Swamp
Douglas, GA 31533
 
 
 
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Subject: Re: [ACEsthetics] Fw: 2.3% Obama tax plus.
 
In trying not to be angry. It's very difficult. 

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On Jan 26, 2013, at 7:33 PM, "William Domb" <wmdomb@verizon.net> wrote:

From a local oral surgeon.

    www.ada.org/8054.aspx will lead to an explanation of the medical devise law and how it applies to the 130 dental devices we will pay an additional 2.3% for. There is a link in the paragraphs which will take you to the list of the devices. Suffice it to say, manual and powered toothbrushes are part of those nasty medical devices which warrant taxing.

    What next? We have a 3.8% Obamacare tax if you make to much, 2.3% for dental devices, increased State and Federal income tax rates, increased Cal State sales taxes, increased federal capital gains taxes, increased federal income taxes on investment interest earned (bonds, savings etc).
 
 
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