Re: [ACEsthetics] Ozone Congress Success

 Coker,Coker, Coker ...this isn't a magic pill (or a one-time "refreshing rectal insufflation")   and no one who treated people indicated that it was in any way a quick or an easy fix.   In fact,  a lot depends on your nutrition, exercise, metal toxicity, etc.   

 

Go next time or get the tapes.....no one gave me the feeling that ozone is a simple, quick, "cure-all" modality!! Debbie

On Tuesday, February 12, 2013, Rick Coker wrote:

I ain't saying that I don't believe, but I am saying that when we blanket say that we can correct a huge list of pathologies, well, we are veering into the zone where tin foil hats and pyramids have ruled to date. I use ozone daily, but I want to move past the "I am pretty sure this is doing something" thinking pattern. 

I know that I won't be taking blood or doing rectal insufflation (although there are a couple of team members who qualify right now!)

I don't know, maybe I just want the app list to be shorter and cleaner, do you catch my drift? Otherwise, we are touting proverbial snake oil- "Step right up young man, whatever that ails you, we can fix!" So that long list of ailments actually begins to work against the use of ozone, rather than for it, it the mind of a skeptical scientist.

Rick

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 12:45 AM, William Domb <wmdomb@verizon.net> wrote:

Next time, git yer butt there.

 

There was a TON of VERY serious, peer-reviewed, heavy frickin duty science presented.

 

And, if you ever attend anyh of the EBD conferences, you will notice that there IS weight to the AGGREGATE of reports from individual ants of the Borg.  Sooner or later all those local 'anecdotal' observations add up.

 

In fact, in many ways they add up in much stronger ways than the pristine, dry, research of the ivory tower.

 

Buy the DVD set when it's available.

 

Start with the work of Silvia Menendez.

 

regards

bill domb

 

From: Rick Coker

Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 3:17 PM

To: Howie Horrocks

Cc: Mark Malterud ; Ace group

Subject: Re: [ACEsthetics] Ozone Congress Success

 

The elephant in the room here is getting past the anecdotal into the reproduceable, double blinded and physiologically sound evidence we need. It is as easy for me to get excited as the next guy, but we can say the same things about Tru-Denta, about all sorts of occlusal theories, about Applied Kinesiology and so on.  And we all know it, we are all wanting to just slide past it, and I don't think we can. Sorry, I would like that, too. I like using ozone as well.

 

But phrases like: "Hey, it is used extensively in Europe", or "It made my pet turtle live an additional ten years" or even "It made my shoulder quit hurting almost immediately", well, those are total anecdotal references and if we want to get this modality accepted, we need to get to work, and I know we can't get big research dollars from anybody, but it still needs to be done, right?

 

Tell me something to make me feel better about all of this....

 

Rick

On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Howie Horrocks <whh@newpatientsinc.com> wrote:

I have to agree with you Mark.

 

What blew me away was listening to all the MDs with the patient stories and the incredibly vast number of maladies they are successfully treating. I left feeling like ozone should be part of just about any treatment.

 

Kudos to Bill Domb, Jul

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