Guru Konde,
you really amaze me. Five minutes you talk sense, the next five, you talk just the opposite of sense.
I am forced to hold opinion that at times someone else uses your name to write, candidly. Is it some form of multiple personality with one brilliant and the other a complete opposite?. As a Chartered Surveyor (branch of Engineering), I came from a background where logic counts but sometimes you make statements and hold positions that are an affront to logic in all its multifarious dimensions.
I have read many of your writings on camnet. Your English is good (at least better than mine I would say) but your logic is terrible. I know in history logic does not count much hence you might not have developed the ability to be logical in your thinking and writing. Not to concentrate on this weakness of yours, I can confidently say I enjoy some of the prose you write. The language is good but please work on the logic part of it, I am sorry, this part is below average. This is my honest view.
Regards
Tumasang Esq
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From: ekonde07@yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 16:01:44 +0000
Subject: Re: [camnetwork] The reason the pope is resigning
you really amaze me. Five minutes you talk sense, the next five, you talk just the opposite of sense.
- Writing about Papacy and Roman Catholicism does that mean it concerns me more than the fate of the poor, especially those in villages in Africa languishing with famine and diseases?.
- Did I covenant somewhere to be writing only about those things that concern me more?.
- Was my writing in anyway whatsoever a hierarchical ordering of importance of things where Papacy and Roman Catholicism was ordered higher than poverty in Africa?.
- When you write about UB politics is that because it concerns you more than poverty in Africa?.
- What makes you think that I must start writing about poverty in Africa if it concerns me more, if I have nothing to write?. Or I should just write something since it concerns me more?.
I am forced to hold opinion that at times someone else uses your name to write, candidly. Is it some form of multiple personality with one brilliant and the other a complete opposite?. As a Chartered Surveyor (branch of Engineering), I came from a background where logic counts but sometimes you make statements and hold positions that are an affront to logic in all its multifarious dimensions.
I have read many of your writings on camnet. Your English is good (at least better than mine I would say) but your logic is terrible. I know in history logic does not count much hence you might not have developed the ability to be logical in your thinking and writing. Not to concentrate on this weakness of yours, I can confidently say I enjoy some of the prose you write. The language is good but please work on the logic part of it, I am sorry, this part is below average. This is my honest view.
Regards
Tumasang Esq
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Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 16:01:44 +0000
Subject: Re: [camnetwork] The reason the pope is resigning
Why should the fate of the Papacy and Roman Catholicism concern you more than the fate of the poor, especially those in villages in Africa languishing with famine and diseases? Let the Pope and would-be-popes concern themselves with the fate of the Papacy and Roman Catholicism. We, the "Pagans" of the "Dark Continent" must concern ourselves with the pressing issues that confront our people. Everything with a beginning has an end. This is common sense....
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How does Nostradus Century V1 Quatrain 25 fit in with this and how do the prophesies of Malachy tie in also?. How does Azetec prophesies, Mayan calendar and also writings from the Jewish Kabbala text tie in with all this. One seer correctly predicted that the last pope will be Benedict XV1. He has predicted also that the next pope in a few weeks will be Pius X111.
How does all this come together?.
Is Peter Tuckson from Ghana our man?. If so why must this foretold false prophet be a blackman. When Nostrademus said at this time of great tribulations a young red black shall seize the seat of the papacy, did he mean black in heart or in colour(Peter Tuckson is young only 64, a cardinal hence RED, and his colour is Black)?. Are we cursed?. Is it better if our man (the last pope who will ursher in the antichrist) be Peter Bertone and not Peter Tuckson?. Is the destruction of Rome physical destruction or spiritual destruction. The Jewish Kabbala writings foretold of bowls of fire raining down on the city of 7 hills (Rome) so is it physical destruction with missiles?
Please advise
Regards
Tumasang
Regards
Tumasang
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Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 05:50:02 -0600
Subject: Re: [camnetwork] The reason the pope is resigning
NOTES: Source. Bible Revelation and World Last Chance.
1. A woman always symbolizes a church in the Bible, in this case the whore – an impure church. This whore is described as being eminently rich, proud, and more importantly, very corrupt (v. 4, 5). Indeed, it represents Satan's final supreme instrument of deception. Whereas in Revelation 13 the union of church and state was blended in one symbol, in Revelation 17 God has pictured them separately. Verse 18. And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth. This is the plain truth. All the Masonic sects, the Illuminati, Opus Dei, the Knight Templars, etc draw their substance from the Vatican and all the essential world rulers do obeisance to the Vatican either directly or indirectly. Yah Bulon thrives in the Vatican.
2. A beast has always signified a kingdom or state that persecutes God's people. So we have an impure woman sitting on (i.e. controlling) a scarlet-colored (a bloody) beast (state). This again reinforces the reality of the Catholic system being the only system that is a church and an earthly kingdom at the same time.
3. " In the Bible, the sea is a symbol for a greatly populated area:
4. The wilderness then, in Bible prophecy, is a figure of speech picturing the harsh conditions facing a church in a particular period in her history.
5. Seven heads – City of Seven Hills or Rome.
6. Seven Kings are the seven last Popes of this century. Pius XI was the first Roman Catholic pope (from February 6, 1922) who became king as well on February 11, 1929. He along with Mussolini, engineered the Lateran Treaty.
7. John was taken in vision to the time of the sixth king (Benedick XVI) : "five are fallen, and one is." He comes after the first five have fallen. Again, it is not coincidental that when taken in vision, John was taken to the time of the sixth king. It is a divine hint by which God is guiding us to focus our attention on this particular king, as he will play a very important role in the end-time events. 3. The seventh king "must continue a short space." (Benedick XVI continued a short space – his reign was short)
8. What is destined to take place after the prophesied short monarchy of Benedict XVI?
"And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition."Revelation 17:11. Here, we learn the following: 1. The Roman Catholic Church was once a beast (up to 1798), but now is not (as she has been in the wilderness experience since 1798); however, she will regain the beast status (meaning she will come out of her wilderness experience) after the fall of the seventh king, Benedict XVI. 2. The next one to come after Benedict XVI will be one of the other seven kings. But he will no longer be considered a mere king, but will be a beast as well; for with him the Roman Catholic Church will regain her former power to persecute her enemies. 3. The eighth, when he comes, will be the last; for he "goeth into perdition."
9. Beyond his anti-GAY, which incurred the wrath of the demoniacs who have taken over the Vatican and are manifesting through Child-molestation worldwide, Pope Benedick XVI ruffled many feathers when he started re-appraising issues like the date of birth of the Lord Jesus. Pope faults claims on Jesus' birth. By News Express, www.newsexpressngr.com, on 22/11/2012. This did not sit down well with many in the Vatican. Small wonder, at his last MASS, the Pope spoke of conflicts and divisions in the RCC.
10. Coming Persecution of the elect of God. Revelation 13 contains a prophecy covering the span of past history as well as looking into the future when this once-great power will again seek to trample the rights of Yahuwah's people: And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against [Elohim], to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. (Revelation 13:1-8, KJV)
11. The Roman Catholic Church is the "mother" because all other religions, not just Christian denominations, calculate their worship days off of the calendar created by the Catholic Church. "Sunday is a Catholic institution and its claim to observance can be defended only on Catholic principles...From beginning to end of Scripture there is not a single passage that warrants the transfer of weekly public worship from the last day of the week to the first." (Catholic Press, Sydney, Australia, August, 1900.) Bone of contention number one – the Sabbath versus THE SUNDAY!
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The thing always happens that you really believe in; and the belief in a thing makes it happen.
How does all this come together?.
Is Peter Tuckson from Ghana our man?. If so why must this foretold false prophet be a blackman. When Nostrademus said at this time of great tribulations a young red black shall seize the seat of the papacy, did he mean black in heart or in colour(Peter Tuckson is young only 64, a cardinal hence RED, and his colour is Black)?. Are we cursed?. Is it better if our man (the last pope who will ursher in the antichrist) be Peter Bertone and not Peter Tuckson?. Is the destruction of Rome physical destruction or spiritual destruction. The Jewish Kabbala writings foretold of bowls of fire raining down on the city of 7 hills (Rome) so is it physical destruction with missiles?
Please advise
Regards
Tumasang
Regards
Tumasang
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From: ntemfacnchwete@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 05:50:02 -0600
Subject: Re: [camnetwork] The reason the pope is resigning
Eschatology
End times Prophecy in Fulfillment
Prophet Ntemfac N. Ofege
Understanding Revelations 17
1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters: 2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication. 3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. 4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: 5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. 6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration. 7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns. 8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is. 9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. 10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. 11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition. 12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. 13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. 14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful. 15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. 16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire. 17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled. 18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth. (KJV)NOTES: Source. Bible Revelation and World Last Chance.
1. A woman always symbolizes a church in the Bible, in this case the whore – an impure church. This whore is described as being eminently rich, proud, and more importantly, very corrupt (v. 4, 5). Indeed, it represents Satan's final supreme instrument of deception. Whereas in Revelation 13 the union of church and state was blended in one symbol, in Revelation 17 God has pictured them separately. Verse 18. And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth. This is the plain truth. All the Masonic sects, the Illuminati, Opus Dei, the Knight Templars, etc draw their substance from the Vatican and all the essential world rulers do obeisance to the Vatican either directly or indirectly. Yah Bulon thrives in the Vatican.
2. A beast has always signified a kingdom or state that persecutes God's people. So we have an impure woman sitting on (i.e. controlling) a scarlet-colored (a bloody) beast (state). This again reinforces the reality of the Catholic system being the only system that is a church and an earthly kingdom at the same time.
3. " In the Bible, the sea is a symbol for a greatly populated area:
4. The wilderness then, in Bible prophecy, is a figure of speech picturing the harsh conditions facing a church in a particular period in her history.
5. Seven heads – City of Seven Hills or Rome.
6. Seven Kings are the seven last Popes of this century. Pius XI was the first Roman Catholic pope (from February 6, 1922) who became king as well on February 11, 1929. He along with Mussolini, engineered the Lateran Treaty.
7. John was taken in vision to the time of the sixth king (Benedick XVI) : "five are fallen, and one is." He comes after the first five have fallen. Again, it is not coincidental that when taken in vision, John was taken to the time of the sixth king. It is a divine hint by which God is guiding us to focus our attention on this particular king, as he will play a very important role in the end-time events. 3. The seventh king "must continue a short space." (Benedick XVI continued a short space – his reign was short)
8. What is destined to take place after the prophesied short monarchy of Benedict XVI?
"And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition."Revelation 17:11. Here, we learn the following: 1. The Roman Catholic Church was once a beast (up to 1798), but now is not (as she has been in the wilderness experience since 1798); however, she will regain the beast status (meaning she will come out of her wilderness experience) after the fall of the seventh king, Benedict XVI. 2. The next one to come after Benedict XVI will be one of the other seven kings. But he will no longer be considered a mere king, but will be a beast as well; for with him the Roman Catholic Church will regain her former power to persecu
te her enemies. 3. The eighth, when he comes, will be the last; for he "goeth into perdition."9. Beyond his anti-GAY, which incurred the wrath of the demoniacs who have taken over the Vatican and are manifesting through Child-molestation worldwide, Pope Benedick XVI ruffled many feathers when he started re-appraising issues like the date of birth of the Lord Jesus. Pope faults claims on Jesus' birth. By News Express, www.newsexpressngr.com, on 22/11/2012. This did not sit down well with many in the Vatican. Small wonder, at his last MASS, the Pope spoke of conflicts and divisions in the RCC.
10. Coming Persecution of the elect of God. Revelation 13 contains a prophecy covering the span of past history as well as looking into the future when this once-great power will again seek to trample the rights of Yahuwah's people: And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against [Elohim], to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. (Revelation 13:1-8, KJV)
11. The Roman Catholic Church is the "mother" because all other religions, not just Christian denominations, calculate their worship days off of the calendar created by the Catholic Church. "Sunday is a Catholic institution and its claim to observance can be defended only on Catholic principles...From beginning to end of Scripture there is not a single passage that warrants the transfer of weekly public worship from the last day of the week to the first." (Catholic Press, Sydney, Australia, August, 1900.) Bone of contention number one – the Sabbath versus THE SUNDAY!
To be continued.
On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 5:20 AM, SAF <suhade@yahoo.com> wrote:
Why the pope is resigning. Very disburbing.SAF
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