Re: Fw: [MTC Global] Re: Don’t ever attempt to do Ph.D. in Business Management if you satisfy all or any one of the following conditions

I haven't followed most of the discussion on the pre-requisites of doing and not doing a PHD...but before all the aspirants or current PHD scholars get disheartened..

I have only one thing to say...


1) take your time to know what you want to do but dont take forever...
reading a lot of research papers may actually confuse you...

2) before you proceed make sure your work is not going to be a ditto copy of some one else....as a researcher your work must show your edge or your independent thinking.

3) data collection is important so identify your sources of data well in advance  and that doesnt mean reading a couple of research papers... it means..knowing which libraries, databanks, organizations and people to approach who can make your data collection easier.

4) brush up your quantitative and statistical abilities while doing the secondary data collection .so that when you collect primary data and do its analysis, it is easier.....remember .there are no excuses and forgiveness for sloppy calculations.

5) Dont just find a GUIDE......FIND A MENTOR..and dont be afraid to ask and to WORK and RE-WORK if your guide-cum-mentor advises...
as they say burn the mid night oil..and grind the axe......and so on..

IN THE END REMEMBER...

A PHD is a long term investment..if done right..it pays well....so like you go out buy a good stocks..invest your time, money and effort judiciously..

DO IT ONCE and DO IT WELL...

What fits for someone else may not be your interest area...so dont have a HERD mentality. Once you find what you like....see if you have that gut feeling...that this is it..this what is going to keep your interest...for the rest of your life..its like i would call... A calling..

an example i was briefly interested in Consumer behaviour, advertising, services and one day attended a video conferencing on CSR (yep you got it..corporate social responsibility) ..i knew this was something that would keep my interest... so i worked on it read it for two years ..found and lost 2 guides who didnt go along with me on this topic and finally found a professor after two and half years who was ready to work on this area...

it been a wonderful learning.. although it took time....

when you do a REAL PHD...you learn ALMOST everything....you learn even the that which others DON'T know and perhaps WILL never know (because on their own it will take time)..unless and until they decide to listen to you.  :)   now isn't that a nice feeling..

I attended a conference some time back... and wish i could teach everyone...what nonsensical talk they were delivering.. completely and utterly hopeless...but i choose to speak in my area only when spoken to or asked about it...so i let them be......:)

SO HAPPY RESEARCHING....






On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Maanish Chava <maanish_chava@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear Sir
 
I respect your experience and wisdom, but being the kind of the person i am , i tend to disagree. Why should one not pursue his/her Ph.D in management?
 
Taking forward the example that you had given, what are the GUIDE's Doing?
 
I mean is the guide unaware about the calibre of the student? Or is the guide doing his duty for the skae of doing it? 
 
Are the guides influencing the decision about the topics selected? 
 
Are they misleading the candidate??
 
Kindly address these questions and then we may come to the conclusion...
 
regards
Maanish Chava
 
9922963889 
Too many meetings indicate inefficiancy.. 

From: lakshmanan rajan <rajanlp@rediffmail.com>
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Dear Dr Vishnu,You have hit the nail on the head. What we need is interdisciplinary approach in researches. Most Ph D scholars end up having a tunnel vision. They get carried away by the volume of work involved in research and get totally disoriented sometimes. In a recent interview, a Ph D in Economics could not explain what FDI stands for (FDI in Retail etc) . God save the Management Education from such PhDsProf LP RajanOn Thu, 23 May 2013 22:35:37 +0530 wrote>Respected Professors/Academicians,...... I sincerely believe that as far as convetional researches in management and social sciences is concerned, almost there is a kind of saturation .....now there is every possibility that it may reach even super-saturation point........now is the time to concentrate focus upon inter-disciplinary and multi-disciplinary researches... for this people with rich and multiple background shall also be encouraged ........ that is, Generalists are as equally needed as that of Super-specialists....that is why, in Medicine, M.D.(General Medicine) is introduced..........holistic approach, at times, leads to abstract or half truth finding research......even to become true specialist, a particular shall be studied in relation to the whole..... that is, the given particular topic in relation to whole organizational and societal environment.... then only the research will become a concrete research.........unfortunately, people with rich diverse background are dubbed as jack of all but master of none......though they know very much that, acquiring command over various disciplines is a Herculean task.....this trend is more in India, wherein Bheeshmas' can't tolerate flourishing of new and complex, multidisciplinary researches.......DrVishnumurty Narra, M.Sc. (IT); Ph.D.(Mgmt); Ph.D.(Psy); Ph.D.(Edn); Ph.D.(Philos);Hyderabad....>>--- On Thu, 23/5/13, Rajesh V - Office Use wrote:>>From: Rajesh V - Office Use >Subject: [MTC Global] Re: Don't ever attempt to do Ph.D. in Business Management if you satisfy all or any one of the following conditions>To: join_mtc@googlegroups.com>Cc: "ORS Rao" , "Sheojee Singh" , "ramana murthy" , "Mohammed Naveed" , "narra vishnumurty" , "Dr.Appalayya Meesala" , withuhari@gmail.com, "Prabhakar Waghodekar" >Date: Thursday, 23 May, 2013, 3:05 PM>>Hi,Valid points and I would like to add another important point to the list -- Practical and preferably hands on experience regarding the subject.Dr P H Waghodekar sign off line for his email is "Classroom teaching must match with Boardroom needs!"How can this happen if any Ph.D. is only conceptual and academic by nature. What value addcan such Ph. D. holders do to their students without any practical/ hands on experience/ exposure.Bye>VRRetail Consultant, Trainer & Author, "Out Of Syllabus"& "The INDIAN reTALEs" - Avl at Flipkart, Kindle& iTunes Click here to visit my site>>On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 2:47 PM, wrote:>Today's Topic SummaryGroup: http://groups.google.com/group/join_mtc/topicsDon't ever attempt to do Ph.D. in Business Management if you satisfy all or any one of the following conditions. [8 Updates]A Genuine Concern Phaneesh Murthy [5 Updates]Fw: Re: [MTC Global] Don't ever attempt to do Ph.D. in Business Management if you satisfy all or any one of the following conditions. [1 Update]lesson to learn [1 Update]Thought for the day [1 Update]Don't ever attempt to do Ph.D. in Business Management if you satisfy all or any one of the following conditions."Dr.Appalayya Meesala" May 22 09:30PM +0530 >>Don't ever attempt to do Ph.D. in Business Management if you satisfy all or>any one of the following conditions.>>>1. You don't know what topic you should do your research on;>>2. You have not read 30-40 research articles till now, and you>cannot distinguish between an ordinary article and a research articles;>>3. You don't know what comprises literature review;>>4. After reading 50 research articles also, you have not got an idea>about research gaps, and likely hypotheses;>>5. You did not get an idea about what a hypothesis means;>>6. You don't have an idea about published valid scales and measures;>>7.You don't know the calculation of descriptive statistics,>chi-square, t-test, anova, correlation, regression coefficients;>>8. You are under the impression that Ph.D. is about writing a>voluminous book with a lot of distantly related material.>>>>Prof. Dr. Appalayya Meesala>Director>Dr. B. R. Ambedkar Institute of Management & Technology>Baghlingampally>Hyderabad- 500044>College Land line: *040-27670675*>Mobile: 0- 9848514011>Our college website: www.ambedkarcollege.com>My personal website: mbaphd.in (under construction) >>*Contact me for help on* *Research Design, Survey Data Analysis, Research>Article Writing, and Ph. D. issues*.>"Virendra Goel" May 23 09:03AM +0530 >>Good suggestion Dr. Meesala. Hope our members who are planning to do their>PhD will take note of the suggestions and first equip themselves with right>attitude and skills before starting the process of PhD.>>Regards>>Virendra Goel>>>>From: join_mtc@googlegroups.com [mailto:join_mtc@googlegroups.com] On Behalf>Of Dr.Appalayya Meesala>Sent:Wednesday, May 22, 2013 9:31 PM>To: join_mtc>Subject: [MTC Global] Don't ever attempt to do Ph.D. in Business Management>if you satisfy all or any one of the following conditions.>>>>Don't ever attempt to do Ph.D. in Business Management if you satisfy all or>any one of the following conditions.>>>>>1. You don't know what topic you should do your research on;>>2. You have not read 30-40 research articles till now, and you cannot>distinguish between an ordinary article and a research articles;>>3. You don't know what comprises literature review;>>4. After reading 50 research articles also, you have not got an idea>about research gaps, and likely hypotheses;>>5. You did not get an idea about what a hypothesis means;>>6. You don't have an idea about published valid scales and measures;>>7. You don't knowthe calculation of descriptive statistics,>chi-square, t-test, anova, correlation, regression coefficients;>>8. You are under the impression that Ph.D. is about writing a>voluminous book with a lot of distantly related material. >>>>>Prof. Dr. Appalayya Meesala>Director >Dr. B. R. Ambedkar Institute of Management & Technology>Baghlingampally>Hyderabad- 500044>College Land line: 040-27670675>Mobile: 0- 9848514011>Our college website: www.ambedkarcollege.com>My personal website: mbaphd.in (under construction) >>Contact me for help on Research Design, Survey Data Analysis, Research>Article Writing, and Ph. D. issues.>>-- >MTCGLOBAL- Educate, Empower, Elevate>--- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups>"Management Teachers Consortium, Global" group.>To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an>email to join_mtc+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.>For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.>withuhari@gmail.com May 22 05:30PM >>Dear appalayya,>>Valuble points for the enthusiastic people who are palnning about phd in management .>What is your way of doing phd. Writing books are finding solution for real ttime hypothesis .>>Can u suggest some research articles forMBA s which useful for them in daily mgmnt life.>>Thnx rgrds,>Hari.k>BM>GIDPL>HYD>9701157007.>>Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel>>-----Original Message----->From: "Dr.Appalayya Meesala" >Sender: join_mtc@googlegroups.com>Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 21:30:32 >To: join_mtc>Reply-To: join_mtc@googlegroups.com>Subject: [MTC Global] Don't ever attempt to do Ph.D. in Business Management if you satisfy all or any one of the following conditions.>>Don't ever attempt to do Ph.D. in Business Management if you satisfy all or>any one of the following conditions.>>>1. You don't know what topic you should do your researchon;>>2. You have not read 30-40 research articles till now, and you>cannot distinguish between an ordinary article and a research articles;>>3. You don't know what comprises literature review;>>4. After reading 50 research articles also, you have not got an idea>about research gaps, and likely hypotheses;>>5. You did not get an idea about what a hypothesis means;>>6. You don't have an idea about published valid scales and measures;>>7. You don't know the calculation of descriptive statistics,>chi-square, t-test, anova, correlation, regression coefficients;>>8. You are under the impression that Ph.D. is about writing a>voluminous book with a lot of distantly related material.>>>>Prof. Dr. Appalayya Meesala>Director>Dr. B. R. Ambedkar Institute of Management & Technology>Baghlingampally>Hyderabad-500044>College Land line: *040-27670675*>Mobile: 0- 9848514011>Our college website: www.ambedkarcollege.com>My personal website: mbaphd.in (under construction) >>*Contact me for help on* *Research Design, Survey Data Analysis, Research>Article Writing, and Ph. D. issues*.>>-- >MTC GLOBAL- Educate, Empower, Elevate>--- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Management Teachers Consortium, Global" group.>To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to join_mtc+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.>For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.>"Prabhakar Waghodekar" May 22 06:50PM >>Smart (?) guys are those (there are many)who satisfy >all or any one of the conditions listed therein and >still earn PhDs for the sake of....., save knowledge, >real contribution or continuing research!>_________________________________________________>>On Wed, 22 May 2013 22:03:30 +0530 wrote>>Don’t ever attempt to do Ph.D. in Business >Management if you.>>>>>1.      >You don’t know what topic you should do your >research>on;>>2.      >You have notread  30-40 research articles till >now, and you>cannot distinguish between an ordinary article and a >research articles;>>3.      >You don’t know what comprises literature review;>>4.      >After reading 50 research articles also, you>have not got an idea about research gaps, and likely >hypotheses;>>5.      >You did not get an idea about what a hypothesis>means;>>6.      >You don’t have an idea about published valid scales>and measures;>>7.      >You don’t know the calculation of>descriptive  statistics, chi-square, t-test, >anova,>correlation, regression coefficients;>>8.      >You are under the impression that Ph.D. is about>writing a voluminous book with a lot of distantly >related material. >>>>>Prof. Dr. Appalayya Meesala>Director >Dr. B. R. Ambedkar Institute of Management & >Technology>>Baghlingampally>Hyderabad- 500044>College Land line: 040-27670675>Mobile: 0- 9848514011>Our college website: www.ambedkarcollege.com>>My personal website: mbaphd.in (under construction)>>Contact me for help on Research Design, Survey Data >Analysis, Research Article Writing, and Ph. D.>issues.>>>>>-- >>MTC GLOBAL- Educate, Empower, Elevate>>--- >>You received this message because you are subscribed >to the Google Groups "Management Teachers Consortium, >Global" group.>>To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving >emails from it, send an email to >join_mtc+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.>>For more options, visit >https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.>>Regards,>>Dr P H Waghodekar >Advisor (HR), IBS & PME (PG) >Marathwada Institute of Technology, >Aurangabad: 431028 (Maharashtra) INDIA.>(O) 02402375113 (M)7276661925 >E-Mail: waghodekar@rediffmail.com>Website: www.mit.asia>>Engineering & Management Education: An Engine of Prosperity.>>Classroom teaching must match with Boardroom needs!>ORS Rao May 23 10:11AM +0530 >>Very well said, Dr Appalayya garu.>I would like to add one more>" 9. If you are under an impression that obtaining PhD is like passing an>examination">>I agree that awareness needs to be built that it requires passion and>dedicated efforts to do research and not merely good intentions.>>Best Regards>Prof ORS Rao>>Sheojee Singh May 23 10:13AM +0530 >>Thanks a lot Sir!>In fact, this condition applies to all disciplines and perhaps this is the>reason for initiation for starting course work by UGC before formal>registration for Ph.D. but the way it is being managed by most of the>universities leaves much to be desired.>With regards>Sheojee>>>>-- >Dr. Sheojee Singh>Sr. Asstt. Professor of Physics>Govt. College of Education>Sector-20 D, Chandigarh-160020 (India)>E mail: sheojee@gmail.com>ramana murthy May 23 01:03PM +0800 >>Dear Dr. Meesala,>Your suggestions for the people who want doPhDin Management are to beappreciated. Research is aseriousexercisewherethe researchcompetenciesof the researcher count a lot, not simply the volume that is produced.But unfortunately the Thesis is evaluated with out muchrigoron thesisdefense. This trend should Change.>Regards,>Dr. D.V.Ramana Murthy, PhD., Prof & Head, Dept of MBA, KBN College PG Centre, VIJAYAWADA.>>>________________________________>From: Virendra Goel >To: join_mtc@googlegroups.com >Sent: Thursday, 23 May 2013 9:03 AM>Subject: RE: [MTC Global] Don't ever attempt to do Ph.D. in Business Management if you satisfy all or any one of the following conditions.>>>>Good suggestion Dr. Meesala. Hope our members who are planning to do their PhD will take note of the suggestions and first equip themselves with right attitude and skills before starting the process of PhD.>Regards>Virendra Goel>>From:join_mtc@googlegroups.com [mailto:join_mtc@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dr.Appalayya Meesala>Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 9:31 PM>To: join_mtc>Subject: [MTC Global] Don't ever attempt to do Ph.D. in Business Management if you satisfy all or any one of the following conditions.>>Don't ever attempt to do Ph.D. in Business Management if you satisfy all or any one of the following conditions.>>1. You don't know what topic you should do your research on;>2. You have not read 30-40 research articles till now, and you cannot distinguish between an ordinary article and a research articles;>3. You don't know what comprises literature review;>4.After reading 50 research articles also, you have not got an idea about research gaps, and likely hypotheses;>5. You did not get an idea about what a hypothesis means;>6. You don't have an idea about published valid scales and measures;>7. You don't know the calculation of descriptive statistics, chi-square, t-test, anova, correlation, regression coefficients;>8. You are under the impression that Ph.D. is about writing a voluminous book with a lot of distantly related material. >>>>Prof. Dr. Appalayya Meesala>Director >Dr. B. R. Ambedkar Institute of Management & Technology>Baghlingampally>Hyderabad- 500044>College Land line: 040-27670675>Mobile: 0- 9848514011>Our college website: www.ambedkarcollege.com>My personal website: mbaphd.in (under construction)>>Contact me for help on Research Design, Survey Data Analysis, Research Article Writing, and Ph. D. issues.>-- >MTC GLOBAL- Educate, Empower, Elevate>--- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Management Teachers Consortium, Global" group.>To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to join_mtc+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.>For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.>>>-- >MTC GLOBAL- Educate,Empower, Elevate>--- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Management Teachers Consortium, Global" group.>To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to join_mtc+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.>For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.>Mohammed Naveed May 23 10:45AM +0530 >>Thanks Dr. Meesala sir,>>It is an eye opener for those Phd aspirants who have little idea about what>it takes to do a Phd, and especially in management. I request you sir, to>mention some of the areas to be known or to be well versed for doing Phd in>Management.>>I personally being an aspirant of doing Phd in management, have some idea>about the areas that you have mentioned, but now i will seriously know>these areas with research perpective.>>Thanks and Regards>>Mohammed Naveed U>MBA, (M.Com), (PGDHRM), UGC NET>Faculty, HKBK College of Engineering,>Dept. of Management Studies, Bangalore>>Mob: +91-9686221608>mail: md.naveed84@gmail.com>>>On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 10:33 AM, ramana murthy <> narra vishnumurty May 22 09:51PM -0700 >>Dear Dr.Appalayya Meesala sir,>.... very good suggestions, indeed..... let the budding researchers in management take guidance and draw inspiration from your invaluable suggestions.....>..... Dr Vishnumurty Narra, Ph.D.(Mgmt); Ph.D.(Psychology); Hyderabad>>--- On Wed, 22/5/13, withuhari@gmail.com wrote:>>>-- >MTC GLOBAL- Educate, Empower, Elevate>--- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Management Teachers Consortium, Global" group.>To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to join_mtc+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.>For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.>>>-- >MTC GLOBAL- Educate, Empower, Elevate>--- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Management Teachers Consortium, Global" group.>To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to join_mtc+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.>For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.>>>
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