Re: National Assembly Powerful than Senate

Mr. Achoa,
I think I understand your point very well. We all agree that our principal goal is to wriggle ourselves out of the fangs of the colonizer. However, in that struggle, we are facing a number of obstacles, a good percentage coming from our own brothers/sisters/parents who have become so entangled with the Yaounde system. These people benefit from different things including the financial largesse of the system. They include Prime Ministers, Cabinet Ministers, Directors, MPs, Senators and you name the rest. This is why it is difficult to see the type of walk out from Yaounde similar to what was done by the few Southern Cameroon representatives in the Nigerian Parliament in the 1950s.
     In my opinion, these people pose a bigger problem to us than Yaounde/Biya. If these people collectively and symbolically walked out or simply laid down their tools of work just for a few hours, Biya and his cohorts will be forced to the conference table at the very least. We have to look for a way of engaging this powerful minority amongst us. The tentacles of their power and influence permeate a very sizable portion of our population. They have money (made honestly and dishonestly) to buy the people. They have influence and the power of policemen, gendarmes and sometimes even the military to enforce their illegitimate wills. The only way we can deal with them is engaging them in meaningful debates. Maybe that way, some or a few will be bold enough to challenge the system that they serve from within. If for example 50% of NW&SW  Legislators (MPs &Senators) combined did what Ayah has been doing for the last couple of years, Biya and his Yaounde establishment will tremble.
 Mbeseha


From: Sama Thomas Achoa <atsoah@gmail.com>
To: "ambasbay@googlegroups.com" <ambasbay@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 5:56 AM
Subject: Re: National Assembly Powerful than Senate

Brother Timothy you mist the point here, we can talk about Nigeria or any other country in the world but that does not mean that we are participating in the day to day policy making of that country.
Mr Akoson is talking about LRDC's politics for he is having an interest there he is not talking from the point of a free or neutral thinker.
And because of that alone his contributions are a vexation to our spirits.
Am i the one to tell you brother Timothy that Mr Akoson Raymond is preparing himself as a candidate to run for Lucifer's organize elections in the Southern Cameroons? If i contribute anything in Nigerian politics, i am doing that from the point of a neutral person and a free thinker but that is not the case with Mr Akoson.
And there are some people here who are very good at coming up with a surbord  do they even reason out any thing before flowing in their motions of support as in King Lucifer's Kingdom?
My brothers we should be serious so far as the Southern Cameroons struggle is concern it should not be an instrument of Njakiri.
Sama Thomas Atsoah.



On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Timothy Mbeseha <mbeseha@yahoo.com> wrote:
Mr. Achoa,
 I do not think Akoson has done anything so wrong to warrant his being taken off the list. He has merely expressed his opinion of what he believes the Cameroon Senate is or is not. He has the right to that opinion and the rest have the right to agree with him or not. He does not need to be a citizen of La Republique du Cameroun to give his own academic appraisal of its institutions. We do that all the time even on countries that we might never visit in our lifetimes. In this open market place of the internet, people should be free to express their opinions. That is what debate and democracy are all about. As much as many of us including me disagree with what goes on in Yaounde, we have to admit the bitter truth that some of our brothers/sisters/parents belong wholeheartedly to those belated institutions. The best thing we can do for them (if necessary) is to educate them on the worthlessness of what they believe and follow so passionately.
Mbeseha

From: Sama Thomas Achoa <atsoah@gmail.com>
To: "ambasbay@googlegroups.com" <ambasbay@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 5:32 AM
Subject: Re: National Assembly Powerful than Senate

Mr Raymond Akoson you are living in a dream land/world.
Are you the one talking of some nonsential thing in King Lucifer's Konhdom called super law?
Anyway no doubt about the trash for you people who believe that there is any good in captivity will even sing praises to your slave masters if they shot your mothers death.
Mr Raymond so for you Mr Paul Biya is the best law you have ever read in your life if i am not mistaken.Wonders i no go ever finish for wanderland.
Mr Moderator please if the likes of Akoson Raymond lacks something to write about the Southern Cameroons please block their accounts from the bay for they are a versation to the spirit of Southern Cameroonians.
Raymond remember that in the yesterdays Mr John Fru Ndi told us that he was going to go to Lucifer's Senate and there he will be causing a storm in a tea spoon guess what Lucifer has dealt with him and his dirty mouth now is in the perminent possition of soun.
Do you mean to tell us that Chief Justice Ayah Paul left the place without changing even an I you now will be that superman that will change even your own self? Lielie.
Massa make wona go die 4 bush.


On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Akoson Raymond <akosonako@yahoo.com> wrote:
The National Assembly is more Powerful than the Senate. Please read on to see how and why.

Ever since President Biya convened the Electoral College for April 14, 2013 Senatorial election, I have listened to journalists, politicians and Cameroonians of other walks of life make disturbing and embarrasing pronouncements that could mislead and misinform the young on issues perculiar to the mother of all other institutions of Cameroon -- Parliament. I therefore feel an irresistible urge to make certain clarifications in this regard. For clarity and better comprehension, I'd like to use Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) format, howbeit, in statement form with corresponding commentary.

1. Senate has solved the problem of transition in Cameroon in case of presidential vacancy.

NO. First off, in case of vacancy at the presidency of the republic, the next in command is ONLY interim whose sole responsibility is to organise elections without himself being a candidate at the election. Secondarily, Cameroon never before had issues with transition as most politicians would want you to believe. The super-eminent law (the constitution) of the land has 'Final and Transitional Provisions' which provides in article 67 (3) that the National Assembly shall exercise full legislative power and enjoy full parliamentary prerogatives until the senate is set up. That is, the president of the National Assembly becomes INTERIM president in the absence of the Senate. This hierarchical order is as clear as day.

2. Distinction between National Assembly and Senate.

This is the most common mistake. It's a problem of nomenclature. Article 14 (1) of the constitution states that legislative power shall be exercised by parliament which shall comprise 2 (two) houses: (a) the National Assembly; (b) the Senate. This means that members of the National Assembly and Senate are all PARLIAMENTARIANS. You can differentiate them by stating -- member of the National Assembly, member of the Senate (or senator). One could even refer to the just concluded election as parliamentary or legislative election -- to be more precise in this case, Senatorial election.

3. The Senate is Upper House while the National Assembly is Lower House.

NO. The constitution doesn't even remotely state any such thing. Therefore, words like 'Upper House' and 'Lower House' are the figment of the imagination of a few individuals and grossly misleading. Let's be careful to not confuse ourselves with what happens in other countries. Some even go as far as insinuating that the Senate is more powerful than the National Assembly. That's not true ... rather, the reverse is true.Surprising, is not it? See the following facts below to clarify your doubts:

A) Members of the National Assembly are elected through direct universal suffrage with non appointed. This means that the house is more democratic -- it has the direct mandate of the people and better represents their will. Also, they have commanding numerical power of 180 members, a fortiori, more sociologically sensitive . On the other divide, the election of Senators is indirect by the vote of municipal and regional councilors, thus no direct trust of the people. It is therefore less democratic as it is worsened by presidential appointment of up to 30% of its members. The number of senators is 100. Please see articles [articles 15 (1) and 20 (2) of the constitution].

B. Each member of the National Assembly represents the entire nation as provided for by art. 15 (2). A senator, on the other hand, represents just the local and regional authorities;

C. The Senate cannot function without the National Asembly but the reverse is true because bills get into parliament through, first, the National Assembly for deliberations before the adopted bill is sent to the senate for simple or absolute majority 'fine tuning' -- an action whose corresponding reaction from the National Assembly could make the existence of the senate useless. How?

Article 19 (2) of Cameroon's constitution provides that bills submitted to the National Assembly by the senate shall either be passed or rejected in accordance with article 30 of the constitution:


- In the event where a National Assembly adopted bill is amended (adjusted) by simple majority of Senators and resent to the National Assembly for reconsideration, a corresponding simple majority vote by members of the National Assembly would REJECT Senate's amendment(s);

- Where a Senate's absolute majority vote rejects part or all of a National Assembly adopted bill, a corresponding absolute National Assembly vote would nose-thumb Senate's rejection.

- Adopted bill from parliament leaves the desk of the president of the National Assembly to the president of the republic for enactment. 

(See entire article 30 of the constitution).

- Where the president of the republic fails to sign an adopted bill to become law after 15 days without he (the president of the republic) asking for a second reading, the constitution gives powers to the president of the National Assembly the full right to himself enact the law as article 31 of the constitution so provides.


Notice that, in the above cases, the will of the National Assembly triumps over the will of the senate, the lone condition being a corresponding percentage of votes cast. And that Senate can only have work to do when the National Assembly deliberates on a bill and adopts it.

D. Senate effectively side steps a huge segment of the youth. At 23, one is eligible age-wise to become a member of the National Assembly. Conversely, one must have turned 40 to become a senator. It is important to note that the youth, in every democracy have greater stakes than the walking deads (Octogenarian Simon Achidi Achu can barely speak) – and, are of course, more mentally productive as a 2011 research at the School of Gerentology, Southern California University buttresses -- that cognitive ability depreciates with age. Morseo, setting the age floor for senators at 40 grossly violates international law: the African Youth Charter, which was adopted by the 7th session of the assembly of heads of states and governments of the AU, a charter that Cameroon, under the Biya regime has duly ratified obliges signatories to involve youths in the participation of parliamentary discourse. The same charter defines a youth as someone between the ages of 15 and 35 inclusive. Please see section 165 of Law No. 2012/001 of April 19, 2012 Relating to the Electoral Code and article 20(3) of the constitution.

It is my hope that this is helpful.

By Akoson A. Raymond,
PAP Candidate for National Assembly,
Upper Bayang & Mamfe Central.

Tel: 78 35 80 29
E-mail: akosonako@yahoo.com



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"…Time has come, I believe, for our leaders to start training the youths to take over the baton. Effective, efficient and rigorous training does not constitute issuing subservient roles; rather, it involves sitting side by side on the round table for policy and decision making and thorough brainstorming on the normative values that undergird progressive issues. Ayah Paul of PAP takes great pleasure in working with the youths. I am proud to work with him..." Akoson A. Raymond.
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