I think, in addition to industry-academia collaboration there should be mentor ship initiative by the islands of educational excellence in our country i.e. by IITs/ NITs/ IIITs/ IISc etc. These institutes should be given the task of mentoring surrounding institutions (both public and private) and made responsible for quality delivery to improve the present system of higher education,
Now almost each and every state in India has got an IIT, NIT, IIIT, IISER, a Central University etc. which should be made to shoulder the responsibility of looking after issues in its respective domain and region.
This will break the locus of control by AICTE /UGC and ease their work for quality improvement initiatives.
This is nothing but DECENTRALIZATION PRINCIPLE.
Can this happen in our system?
Thanks & Warm Regards
Arun Kumar Deshmukh
Faculty of Management Studies (FMS)
Banaras Hindu University (BHU)
Varanasi - 221005, BHARAT (India)
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On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 11:03 PM, Richard Hay <profhay@gmail.com> wrote:
An interface with industry may help the academia and industry to change their mindsets about each other. If both could collaborate , the results may be far better than expected.Co-operative programs by joining hands may also provide employability skills.Prof Richard Hay--On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 6:54 PM, Prabhakar Waghodekar <waghodekar@rediffmail.com> wrote:
I have been instrumental to design and develop BE (Mechanical: sandwich) and BE
(Production: Sandwich programmes of Pune University, Pune, in 1974 and 1995
respectively. Closely monitored the prgs. My experiences are:
1.
Getting industry response is a tactful assignment. It is basically give and
take deal.
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If the supervisors (faculty) is not properly controlled, the prgs are diluted.
In the said prgs. there was one year training: 6 months in 6th Semester and 6
months in 8th Semester, prg. is of normal duration of four years.
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The faculty and industry both were benefitted.
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In MIT Aurangabad we are running BTech Prgs (the only College in BAMU) that
caters 6 months training (8th Semester) in industry.
But the big issue is if will industry be capable to absorb lakhs of students
every year? How to maintain quality of training? etc.
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>Dear Sirs, We can definitely reorient the education system if we make
apprenticeship of 6 months intertwined with 3 months of instruction and
evaluation. The total period of education being extended for a minimum of 4
years and to a maximum of 6 years Whether it is the arts or the sciences or
engineering or any other subject apprenticeship will help the practical
application of knowledge. This should also lead to a change of courses being
made the prerogative of the University taking into account the location and the
local economy into account.
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K.Paranjpe
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capitation fees without matching demands from industries. Now we have a large
number of graduates who unemployable.
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On the other hand we do not get competent professional like technicians in
various fields as politicians did not consider such institutes profitable as
capitation fees would not be available.
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We are surely heading towards a situation where we will have large number of
frustrated youth.
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Regards,
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Satish
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From: kiran paranjpe
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Dear Sir, As you have mentioned, these are the perils of professional education.
The fluctuations of the growth and decline of an industry or the economy are
bound to affect the employment of the graduates of the educational institutes. I
am unable to understand how a quality improvement in professional education is
going to make the improvement on the job front. Simply producing more
"employable people" is not going to ensure more employment. When job growth
exists it will absorb the more employable first. But if one assumes for the sake
of argument that all of the three thousand colleges are going to produce top
notch engineers and managers, where are the jobs to absorb them. If the market
demands high quality diploma engineers and technicians, then what is the use of
producing top quality graduate engineers. Our education system needs
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to reorient itself to job market requirements and not go by prevailing social
pressures of producing more and more graduates who are unable to find any
gainful work.
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students, institutions and teachers. Outgoing students are suffering because of
economic slowdown or inadequacy of the knowledge and skills acquired to be able
to find their space in economic activity, because outgoing young people are not
getting employed, new students are opting for other alternatives instead of
investing huge money in professional courses, decrease in admissions is leading
to closure of institutes and closure of institutes means requirement of less
teachers hence obvious unemployment here too. This all can be and will be
corrected with simultaneous improvement in quality at all levels.RegardsVirendra
GoelFrom: join_mtc@googlegroups.com [mailto:join_mtc@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Prof. Bholanath Dutta
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Subject: [MTC Global] A million engineers in India struggling to get placed in
an extremely challenging marketEsteemed MTCians,Please go through the article
featured in ET dated 18.06.2013. The fate of MBA is no better than engineering
graduates………………..time to react. Time has come when supply of
teachers will exceed the demand in Management Programs as many management
colleges are closing due to poor admission. There is a sense of insecurity
amongst management teachers. ---------------------------------------------------
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graduating out of India's engineering colleges run the risk of being unemployed.
Others will take jobs well below their technical qualifications in a market
where there are few jobs for India's overflowing technical talent pool. Beset by
a flood of institutes (offering a varying degree of education) and a shrinking
market for their skills, India's
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engineers are struggling to subsist in an extremely challenging market.
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According to multiple estimates, India trains around 1.5 million engineers,
which is more than the US and China combined. However, two key industries hiring
these engineers -- information technology and manufacturing -- are actually
hiring fewer people than before.
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For example, India's IT industry, a sponge for 50-75% of these engineers will
hire 50,000 fewer people this year, according to Nasscom. Manufacturing, too, is
facing a similar stasis, say HR consultants and skills evaluation firms.
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According to data from AICTE, the regulator for technical education in India,
there were 1,511 engineering colleges across India, graduating over 550,000
students back in 2006-07. Fuelled by fast growth, especially in the $110 billion
outsourcing market, a raft of new colleges sprung up -- since then, the number
of colleges and graduates have doubled.
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Jobs have, however, failed to keep pace. "The entire ecosystem has been built
around feeding the IT industry," says Kamal Karanth, managing director ofKelly
Services, a global HR consultancy."But, the business model of IT companies has
changed...customers are asking for more. The crisis is very real today."
Placement numbers across institutes -- including tier-I colleges such
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In 2012-13, in IIT Bombay, a total of 1,501 students opted to go through the
placement process. At the time of writing, only 1,005 had been placed
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In 2011-12, 1,060 of the 1,389 students were placed. Further down the pecking
order, at theAmity School of Engineering and Technology, placements are muted.
The number of companies visiting is down from 86 last year to 67 in 2013 at the
time of writing (placements are currently underway).
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Batch sizes have reduced drastically at its Noida campus this year, with 365
students placed so far in a batch size of 459, compared to 1,032 being placed in
a batch size of 1,160 last year.
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"Some companies have delayed the joining dates of students who passed out last
year and they are still waiting to be placed," saysAjay Rana, director,Amity
Technical Placement Centre. "We can expect joining dates of students who passed
out this year to be deferred by a minimum of six months."This muddled equation
is now showing signs of social and economic strain across the country.
Frustrated engineers are taking jobs for which they are overqualified and,
therefore, underpaid.
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A few exceptions have even turned to crime. According to media reports,
Manjunath Reddy, acivil engineer, turned to chain snatching in Thane, a suburb
of Mumbai, to support his young family. While he used some money to buy a small
flat in peripheral Mumbai, his failure to net a job drove him to crime, he told
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Like him, another engineer in Aurangabad turned to car lifting as a route to
easy money. "The social aspect of this massive under-employment
andunemploymentwill soon be witnessed," warns Pratik Kumar, HR chief of Wiproand
chief executive of its infrastructure engineering unit.
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Hiring is slowing down because recruiters are changing their strategy. "An
engineering degree is a poor proxy for your education and employment skills,"
says Manish Sabharwal, chairman of TeamLease, a temp staffing firm.
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"The world of work is evolving... employers increasingly don't care what you
know, they focus on what you can do with that knowledge." While dozens of new
institutes have been established in the past six or eight years, he claims that
over a third of them are empty and perhaps they are "worth more dead (for
thereal estatethey sit on) than alive."
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A global economic slowdown may have only worsened what is already a bad problem,
say others such as Amit Bansal, co-founder of Purple Leap, a skills assessment
firm, which routinely gauges the capabilities of students across these
institutes.
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"Even without this slowdown, there are a large number of students who won't get
a job," he says. Bansal estimates that, at best, there are 150,000-200,000 jobs
generated annually in theIndian economyand far too many engineers attacking this
labour pool.
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What's more, India's technical talent pool is also warped, with almost the same
number of engineers as technical graduates from institutes such as ITI. "In
developed markets, there is usually one engineer for every ten," says Bansal.
This skew is only compounding the woes of engineers in India.Educate, Empower,
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