Re: [ACEsthetics] Article: Measles Outbreak Traces To Vaccine-Refusing Megachurch

Good point, Bob -  it is part of human nature to grossly overestimate the risk of adverse events that are especially  dramatic or affect one personally. Many people are afraid of bear attacks, even though they are thousands of times more likely to die on the highway on the way to the park. Or they're terrified of being blown up my terrorists, even though more people have always been killed by having their pajamas catch fire.

 It's not rational, but it is human nature, and it does drive vaccine phobia to a degree.

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/increased_risk.png


On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Bob Perkins <turkeysturkeys@gmail.com> wrote:
very good point, Steve.  It is way better to have the vaccinations but (IF) you are one of those negatively effected (the mother of a child impacted), it can be beyond devastating.  It can be hard to accept a tragedy when you actually went down yourself and subjected your child to it.  Your only real responsibility (to keep your child safe) was a failure.  As I have mentioned here before, I had a patient whose son died as a result of a vaccination....

But the benefits outweigh the risks,  I get that


On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Steve Hendry <rsh.dds.fagd@gmail.com> wrote:
Some individuals think a vaccine has to be 100% effective and and have 0% negative effects to be worth using at all,  Perhaps they should become familiar with the concept of risk-benefit and consider that vaccination need only give better outcomes than the uncontrolled disease to be useful.




On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:53 AM, tshewman <tshewman@insight.rr.com> wrote:
If vaccines are that wonderful, the diseases wouldn't exist nor would those who get vaccinated be concerned. We all want an easy quick fix (me included), unfortunately, with so many documented failures of vaccinations, there is still a long way to go.
 
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You obviously did not follow the concentrated effort to eliminate small pox and the efforts of Rotary International and the Gates Foundation to eliminate polio.  The elimination of small pox could be directly traced to vaccines as can the almost total disappearance of polio where ever vaccination has been allowed.  The CDC should not be insulted by people who know nothing about vaccines other than they might cause some bad side effects.  Ice cream will make you fat and put plaque in your coronary arteries but we let people do that because it only harms them.  Refusal to accept vaccination effects every person who you come in contact with.  The church learned that and reversed their stand on vaccination.  Nothing will change your mind if proof was shoved down your throat.  You are one of the problems we have with eliminating these diseases…using crap science to convince desperate people that the problems their child was born with is related to vaccines and making them prophets of your bull crap. 

 

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With trends for all diseases sloping downwards prior to vaccines, we simply cannot say vaccines eliminated or even reduced these diseases. That would be like a car going down a hill, add a suitcase and say the suitcase caused the car to go down the hill. There are obviously many other issues (esp of today) with the limited efficacy (why so many documented vaccine failures where disease is present in people that are vaccinated), the safety issues (see Cochrane reviews) and the untested safety (where cocktails are not tested for safety).

 

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Yes, I know Todd.  This is due to hand washing, herbs, and cranial osteopathy.  But for the rest of us who base our lives in reality, this diagram speaks volumes.

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On Aug 25, 2013, at 1:41 AM, Kent Smith <kentsmith@21stcenturydental.com> wrote:

Hmmmm....



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