Re: [ACEsthetics] Obama is acting strangely? - ND

So in one breath it is everyone's fault and in the next breath it is just the right wing nutjob religious folks and you have the John Stewart commentary to prove it?


Jeff L. Rodgers, DMD, PC
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On Sep 16, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Jack Weiss <drjackpweiss@gmail.com> wrote:

   In THIS instance, pretty much "yes". The extreme wing of the Democrats is not as powerful or large as the extreme wing of the Republicans. Moderate Republican are, either deciding not to run again, or they are having to shift their votes  from the past, in order to get the support of the base further to the Right than had been in the past. 
  Bill Mahr made a new word, "blacktracking", that is changing your opinion after Obama sided with your original position. Too many people take the opposite side of the president, no matter what he says. It really is a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. Here, the president does exactly what Roger Ailes called for a year ago, yet all the FOX commentators blast him.

      Jack



Jack,

Allow me to rephrase your post below.

"Yes…fault is on both sides.  But let me tell you why it is the right wing religious nut jobs fault.'

Regards,
Jeff

Jeff L. Rodgers, DMD, PC
Atlanta, GA


On Sep 16, 2013, at 10:18 AM, Jack Weiss <drjackpweiss@gmail.com> wrote:

     Jeff, I do agree that the "extreme wings of BOTH parties share the blame. However, the Tea Party has had an influence, and are part of this extreme Right. The more moderate Republicans are either, not running, or have moved much more to the Right in order to get their support. I feel the refusal to compromise began during the Clinton administration, continued partially during Bush 2, but has taken off during this administration. Democrats worked with both Reagan and Bush 1, and some with Bush 2. Republicans worked with LBJ and some with Clinton. Don't really remember much of the Carter years since I was in Dental school then.
     One of the problems, I see, is when religion becomes the focal point and defining reason of someone's "political" views. In ALL conservative religious groups, whether some in the conservative Christians in the US, the Religious Party in Israel, or the radical Islamist, when your personal religion defines your political views, then there's no chance of compromise. People will compromise political views in order to work together to get a shared win. Very religious people, almost by definition, will not compromise their religious beliefs (nor should they have to, in most cases). However, when taxes, civil rights, and other political issues are viewed through someone's religious prism, then there's no compromise on these political and social issues. 
              Jack


You agree but then proceed to chide the opposing sight and place all the blame there, and feed the cycle.  The loyal opposition was gone long before Obama.

It is also still funny to me how much political blame gets put on the Tea Party although they have had no real impact politically.  They haven't even really been around long enough to do much.   But what is most interesting to me about them is the amazing vitriol that gets thrown their way when there main platform is 'do not spend more than you take in.'  I wonder why that gets under your skin so much.

I also like your use of quotes with 'non-traditional' republicans.  You think the dems still believe in 'Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your coountry'?

My point here is that they should all be thrown out.  Not a single person in DC seems to put the country's interest above their own.  The libs tend to get their talking points from CNN/MSNBC and the cons from Fox.  The same crap keeps getting spewed from one side of the aisle to the other and nothing seems to get done.  And when it does get done it is something so extreme that it is doomed to fail before it begins and it feeds the cycle.  

I challenge you and everyone else to try something the next time a political story breaks.  If you are at a TV switch back and forth between Fox and CNN.  If you are in your car switch back and forth between Fox and CNN/Left Radio.  It is like these people live on different planets.

Sorry for the length here but I have had a cancellation.  :]

Regards,
Jeff


Jeff L. Rodgers, DMD, PC
Atlanta, GA


On Sep 16, 2013, at 9:30 AM, Jack Weiss <drjackpweiss@gmail.com> wrote:

    I agree with you, Jeff. I have been following national politics since 1968, when I was 13. The term, "loyal opposition" has seem to been lost in the past several years. Republicans and Democrats always worked together. Yes, they fought on some bills, but always tried to work things out by compromise. Today, the Tea Party and the "non-traditional} Republicans are not willing to compromise. Its their way or no way, even thought they lost the election. That's no way to govern. 
    Yes, I am biased, and I do see fault on both sides. However, when one side refuses to compromise, whether they're in the majority or minority, its not good for the country. Because of the filibuster, a 40/60 minority can hold the entire country hostage. We need to go back to the old filibuster where someone has to actually talk, therefore stopping all senate action. That way, the filibuster can still be used but in a much rarer situation. The new way seemed good, at first, but had some bad unforeseen consequences.
             Jack
             


I think this may be the crux of the partisan problem in the US right now.

Contrary to popular belief there are a very LARGE number of us who want whoever is in charge to succeed beyond our wildest dreams.  I disagree with Obama on almost every single issue.  However, I have been wrong before so I could be wrong now.  So I want him to make the economy freaking incredible.  It's good for me if he does.  I don't think he will but I certainly don't want to be the roadblock that stops it.  I want him to bring peace to the middle east.  Again, I don't think he will but I don't want to be the roadblock.

I believe that less government = the best government.

Just my 2 cents though.

Jeff

Jeff L. Rodgers, DMD, PC
Atlanta, GA


On Sep 12, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Bruce Finnigan <finniganbruce@yahoo.com> wrote:

no opposition wants to see the other side succeed.


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