Re: [cameroon_politics] RE: "...The FORCED Marriage is Over..." ...Anglophones fume!

CORRECTION
AT THE END OF PARAGRAPH 2, READ:
If no, those encouraging, aiding and abetting the violation of the territorial integrity of the occupied state - even colonialism - could be prosecuted for these acts which constitute international crimes. 
GA
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On Jan 4, 2014, at 5:45 AM, George Achu <gamya39@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

Regarding the issue of secession, it is important to know whether Southern Cameroons was part of French Cameroons (Cameroun) at the latter's independence on 1/1/1960? If yes, pursuant to international law, those advocating for the separation of Southern Cameroons are secessionists - subject to prosecution. If not, separatists are not secessionists.
 Another is whether Cameroun formed an enforceable, legal, two-state association/federation with Southern Cameroons at the latter's independence on 1/10/1961? If no, those encouraging, aiding and abetting the violation of the territorial integrity of the occupied state - even of colonialism - international crimes.
Were Republic of Cameroun, aka East Cameroun, and Southern Cameroons, parties to a de facto two-state federation when the former, using its overwhelming majority, in 1972 abolished the federation and merged its partner into itself - like a magician, made it disappear? If yes, those responsible and advocating for this status could be prosecuted for colonial occupation and assimilation. A lawyer described the act as theft "by false pretenses" - the description of a theft crime generally associated with personal property. - not land, territory and millions of people on it. No wonder, it is alleged that French President de Gaulle described Southern Cameroons as a "little gift" of Britain to France. . In deed, a little gift" full of of abundant rich natural resources and cheap labour.
Who knows a Southern Cameroons restorationist who has been successfully prosecuted and found guilty of advocating for secession under the existing domestic law? I don't.
Who knows why the names " Southern Cameroons", "West Cameroon" are dreaded by Camerounian authorities and the designations " Anglophones", NW Province/Region, SW Province/Region preferred by them? I don't.
Why was the 50th Anniversary of Cameroun's independence allegedly celebrated with pomp and pageantry in 2010 , while that of Southern Cameroons in 2011 was banned, criminalized and advocates persecuted? Have some restorationists been prosecuted or still languishing in custody or jail for this crime of " leze-majeste"? Your guess is as good as mine.
Southern Cameroons/Ambazonian "Secessionists", "restorationists", friends and sympathizers, spotted by aspiring fishers-of-men in troubled waters, should beware...when zealous advocacy for their serfdom and personal dreams bear fruit.
GA




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On Jan 3, 2014, at 10:00 AM, Dennis Tambe <dbtmamfe@hotmail.com> wrote:

 

Mr Boh,

Happy New Year to you too.


First things first.  You seasoned SCNC secessionists (Mr. Ntemfac Ofege included),  must first apologize for your new overly enthusiastic recruit's (Mr Raymond Akoson) rather glibe assertion that Anglophone Cameroonians have never held ambassadorial appointments in London.  I will address the other issues you've raised after your public climb down from that manifestly errant
statement.

Your "give a dog a bad name to hang it" politics will not escape our country's heightened due diligence in 2014.


Mukefor
 

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From: herbertboh@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 09:06:29 -0500
Subject: Re: [cameroon_politics] RE: "...The FORCED Marriage is Over..." ...Anglophones fume!

 

Happy New Year, Mukefor!

If your political ambitions carried forward into 2014, my suspicion is you are still gubernatorial aspirant, right? I ask only because your signature on this particular post did not say so.

It's insignificant because, as our brother Ntemfac says, you are equal to your 2013 self.

Notwithstanding, may I remind the gubernatorial aspirant that the comments Akoson relayed are from those whose votes he will need of he is to govern? Unless, of course (why didn't I think of this?)... unless you have been hatching this whole thing in public about aspiring to win office while secretly wishing/hoping/plotting for it to come about by presidential decree.

Surely you know that Akoson did not put those anti-Biya comments in the mouths of your well behaved future electorate. Neither did they borrow those words from "divisive newspapers". Need I remind you? The voters are all big boys and girls, you know... all fully capable of deciding and speaking for themselves... just like all big boys and girls do.

So, I ask you: why are losing your temper? What crime did Akoson commit by sharing? Or... I forget. He had not yet apologized for a mistake about an insignificant ambassadorial posting. How dare he not apologize?

Let me try to understand this better... Is it possible our gubernatorial aspirant is vexed by criticisms of President Biya and would have preferred for Akoson to bury them? Here is an idea: why don't you supply the "less divisive" Facebook posts?

You could help shine the shit Yaounde keeps dropping. Yaounde has always had vacancies in that category for people from west of a certain river. If you oblige, you could save us all from all these "divisive newspapers". You could help dilute the heavy dose of insults from Biya bashers on Facebook and other online platforms. You could offer an alternative to the anti-CPDM "baby out with the bath water" rants of a frustrated, balkanizing and foul-mouthed Akoson.

Boh Herbert


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On Jan 3, 2014, at 6:41 AM, Dennis Tambe <dbtmamfe@hotmail.com> wrote:

 

Mr. Akoson,

You have not apologized for your foul-mouthed and expedient assertion that no Anglophone has ever served as Ambassador to London. 

You have now jumped to another headline-grabbing assertion.  Who cares what divisive newspapers write?


These loud-mouthed and knee-jerk declarations are symptomatic of the declarations of a failed and frustrated politician who brashly took on the entrenched CPDM and lost.  You are now resorting to  "throw the baby with the bathwater" balkanization politics.  How shameful!


Suddenly, our country Cameroon that PAP candidates were keen to serve in the CPDM dominated and manipulated parliament has become a dead letter.  Failed politicians retrogressing into forlorn and retrograde politics. I guess the end justifies the means!


Mukefor Dennis Besong Tambe.


 Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 02:55:24 -0800
> From: akosonako@yahoo.com
> Subject: "...The FORCED Marriage is Over..." ...Anglophones fume!
> To: camnetwork@yahoogroups.com; cameroon_politics@yahoogroups.com; ambasbay@googlegroups.com; sobaamerica@yahoogroups.com
>
>
> All comments on Biya's speech had one message, "...the FORCED marriage is over..."
>
> The Post Newspaper is a very authoritative source of information for 'anglophone readership'. They had president Biya's speech of Dec. 31, 2013 posted on their online version (www.thepostwebedition.com).
>
> Never has it ever happened anywhere in the world where a head of state's speech doesn't draw even one positive comment. Please, enjoy the unedited comments below the speech. They suggest one and one thing ONLY -- you decipher!
>
> Please note that I am not posting the speech on my wall because I think it is TOO LONG and EMPTY -- most of what he addresses are generalities and unnecessary for the country's progress!
>
> Here are the comments:
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Comments
>
> I do agree with you fully. Anyone who followed his so called end of year speech will agree with me that Biya has no respect for Anglophone Cameroonians. He did not even mention the unification. What an embarrassment. South West and North West should call a conference to plan for separation. And this should not be done by any of the so-called Politicians that we have like Fru Ndi or the so call representatives of our region. These Politicians have failed us. I had never been a member of S.C.N.C and what they advocate for. But now I think we should all stand behind for secession Someone like Mola Njoh Litumbe can do it. All of us can really behind a man like him
>
> Posted By : fako | Jan 1 2014
>
> Our Head of State is more concerned about POLITICS and his French allies - mentions Father Georges Vandenbeusch by name - a man unknown to ordinary Cameroonians. On politics, he cannot explain how his burgeoning bureaucracy makes for effective governance and can be funded without needlessly turning public funds into senatorial allowances that wind up as luxury cars on dirty roads. He does not see how the increasingly lawlessness in our region is partly due to misrule and corruption over many decades.
>
> Posted By : Martin Douala | Jan 1 2014
>
> Don't worry fellows, very soon you will find our hand clapping, greedy, protruded tummy, malicious, hopeless cpdm stooges from SW and NW that will start singing praises to this absentee landlord that has no respect for the law or any institution that happens to be in Cameroon. No word about reunification but yet we hear him mention french citizens that were taken hostage. UB has postponed graduation to January because they hoped this idiot of a president will come to buea. i feel bad for my people but i know one day we will wake to hear the good news biya is dead or is leaving power. May he have a HAPPY HEART ATTACK this new year. hopeless president.
>
> Posted By : Johny Mbeng | Jan 1 2014
>
> My brother I think it's time for our people to stand up and fight this injustice. For the last years all the projects in the country are only been sent to the other parts of the country South West And North West we are not been given anything. Why? Yesterday he talked about 3 new medical establishments. 1 in Douala, 1 in Yaoundé and 1 in some Village. What about the south west and North West. Just have a look at all the projects that are going on for the years now in the country. Is there any one in our regions? No. Since are representatives are only interested in the money they are been giving and not what they were voted to do. I fill we should tell our to start by attacking dose so called politicians It's not possible that Monkey di work Bamboo die chop. It's time to let go. it's too much.
>
> Posted By : fako | Jan 1 2014
>
> How can President Biya be so right on paper and always very wrong in implementation? Why can't this guy recognises this weakness and recruit and totally empowers someone who is very good in this area?
>
> Posted By : Evouna | Jan 1 2014
>
> Guys, After listening to Biya and his Rhetorics, I was left scandalised for is open disrepect to a people-Southern Cameroons. Its a shame that a head of state would talk of three major projects/Hospitals in douala, Yaounde, and Sagmalima, while peopel die in Kumba, Buea, Limbe, Bamenda, Mbengwi, Kumbo etc. Take a look at Major projects in the country-M'mvele, Kribi sea port, Brdige over river wouri, Olembe low cost housing etc, there is non in Southern Cameroon. Secondly, it was disheartening to hear him say, the investment budget in all our 10 regions have never exceeded 50%. Great knowledge about the real statistic, while our MPs talked of 80%. But thgis is gross mismanagement. and hwta happens to the over 50% swindled?
>
> Posted By : Delegue | Jan 2 2014
>
> Too bad Fako is only learning of these injustices now. Some of us saw it long ago and took our stance. Three federal hospitals, one in Yaoundé,Sangmelima and Douala without any in Buea or Bamenda. Unification was never in his agenda that is why nothing was mentioned of it. I pity Buea population that had been taken hostage for nothing.The crisis rocking the Cameroon shipyard company was not mentioned because it's probably not important but the knapping and releasing of French Citizens is much more important.Taxes and custom duties are skyrocketing yet he talked of employment without a vibrant private sectors. This speech probably was intended for Kabila and Chom. HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE.
>
> Posted By : Eyong Enow | Jan 2 2014
>
> Biya please give us the honour and have a happy heart attack before the year runs out. This guy is the most useless person on earth. Our brothers and sisters are being massacred in CAR, he doesn't console with them in his speech, unification he doesn't mention anything, building hospital's in all 3 francophone areas and none in an anglophone area. UB graduation left aside because they were hoping to see him in buea, road divider in buea removed so his convoy can pass, this has caused so much damage in buea as drivers kill pedestrans regularly. Where is the biya? Ring road in NW is now history since how many years ago, yet they have finished ayos-bonis road even after dieudonne ambassa zang stole billions for that project.I am just fed up with this guy and all his lies that his stooges from SW and NW still support till date. One day we will get to hold each and everyone of them accountable. ALl these his stooges together with him.
>
> Posted By : Johny Mbeng | Jan 2 2014
>
> Mola Njoh Litumbe is the only one who can help us if we want to be saved all our leaders have failed but this old man stand to be an exemplary old man ready for a change. With his age he had long seen the hand writing on the wall and knew we dont have anything to do with East Cameroon.You of West Cameroon rally behind this old man I am doubting why someone like Cadinal Tumi like to see Cameroonians suffering and will not lead a change?
>
> Posted By : Belljojo | Jan 3 2014
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