Yesterday at 2:31pm ·
Initially, i thought the only problem was commemorating a fiftieth
anniversary after 53 years.
Yet, similar to most other stuff that is conceived in French and
loosely translated to English, there was bound to be an "ERROR" on
this SLAB from 50th Anniversary Monument in Buea.
Do you see it?
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Tatabod Calson "ANNIVERSARIES" lol
Yesterday at 2:36pm · Like · 1
Alphonsius Ategha Euhhhhhhh Acha X Acha Phil: I still don't see the
error. Is there an infelicity in the English version? An
'un-idiomatic' expression? If you are referring to 'Anniversaries",
then I can agree with you if the word 'Anniversary' never takes the
plural form in the Queen's language. Else...we should 'plunge' (sans
se faire mal) in the context. It is worth mentioning that during the
Fiftieth Anniversary of Independence, no monument was erected. I stand
corrected. Fiftieth Anniversary of the Independence of Cameroon (1960)
and Fiftieth Anniversary of Reunification (1961)...and we have
"Anniversaries". Ne tirez pas sur le traducteur! Government officials
did not want to dissociate one from the other. Don't ask me why, for I
won't be able to substantiate their stand. I hope and only hope the
translation is by a professional. Even if it is a "hack", he/she did
his/her best.
22 hours ago · Like
Acha X Acha My dear Alphonsius, I don't need this amount of relativism
in one post. Take a stand between Anniversaries or Anniversary ... it
can't be wrong and right at the same time.
Keep looking. You'll be surprised at what you'll find if you desist
from explanations which seem to justify incompetence.
22 hours ago · Like · 1
Arnold Onana Fiftieth independence? How many where there?
22 hours ago · Like · 2
Alphonsius Ategha I will stay polite by saying "Anniversaries" is an
English word. I did not want to be sarcastic. You wrote '(...) there
was bound to be an "ERROR" on this SLAB from 50th Anniversary Monument
in Buea." You 'uppercased' ERROR and definitely omitted to
'pluralise'...unless the ERROR refers to a 'bouquet', a 'fioretti' of
translation mistakes.
22 hours ago · Like · 1
Acha X Acha maybe i noticed one, and Calson noticed another one. We
could turn this thread into a book you know? Concentrate on the text,
not on the commentators.
21 hours ago · Like · 1
Alphonsius Ategha Arnold Onana; the answer blows...in the first
paragraph (Independence and Reunification)!
21 hours ago · Like · 1
Alphonsius Ategha It is very easy to pinpoint translation
mistakes...but very difficult to translate. Many believe that when you
are bilingual, you can translate or interprete. It is as much as
saying if you have two hands you can automatically play guitar, piano.
"Even those who approach or attain true bilingualism are still usually
unable to translate without instruction". Michael A.K. Halliday, The
Linguistic Sciences and Language Teaching, 1964.
21 hours ago · Like · 2
Acha X Acha there's an omission in the third paragraph ... "... a
great work of art in the form of a mosaic made from glass paste,
inspired the cultures of the ten regions ..."
21 hours ago · Like
Acha X Acha Mon frère, c'est le corporatisme que rechercheons ici ...
celui qui est responsable de cette traduction, a bien fait son boulot,
but it's not good enough! I think i need grand Ndeh here.
Parlons du texte ... is it the best we could get? Do you think it's
acceptable from/for someone who uses English as a first language?
21 hours ago · Like · 1
Arnold Onana There are many errors, just brought out one. for
something of that importance, it should be redone
21 hours ago · Like · 1
Alphonsius Ategha ahahahaha Acha X Acha. you'd better set up a team,
come up with all translation mistakes from all official documents,
give your proposals and send them to appropriate quarters. Some one
said Cameroon has two official languages: French and French.
21 hours ago · Like
Acha X Acha Everyone who contributes is part of the team ...
21 hours ago · Like
Alphonsius Ategha J'ai appris que je dois apprendre à apprendre tous
les jours. Et j'ai compris. 'Chacun son métier, et les vaches seront
bien traitées'. Vous remettez le texte en français à 100 traducteurs
professionnels, chevronnés, de haut vol et vous n'aurez jamais 100
versions anglaises identiques...à moins que tous ne recourent
systématiquement au mot-à-mot. Il existe cependant sept critères qui
permettent d'évaluer la qualité d'une bonne traduction. Ce serait
prétentieux et pédant de ma part de les citer ici. Ce n'est ni le
lieu, ni le moment. "Chacun son métier, et les vaches seront bien
traitées".
21 hours ago · Like
Essoka Sona What Alphonse has just said is very important about
pinpointing flaws in translation, at the same vein he lauded the
dexterity of the translators at the presidency or those who did the
job
20 hours ago · Like
Essoka Sona Arnold, 50th independence is different from 50th
anniversary of independence
20 hours ago · Like · 1
Essoka Sona The Queen's language when getting translations from french
gets a bit mixed up if you are not in the shoe of the translator
20 hours ago · Like
Arnold Onana Essoka that's exactly my point
18 hours ago · Like
Woro Deschamps How can you create a monument to celebrate an occasion
then use the monument to describe its content and say nothing about
what you celebrating?
17 hours ago · Like · 1
Scot N Asonganyi Defang Alphonsius Ategha...That is what makes some
folks like me to vent fury with that administration..In a country that
you are purporting to be bilingual,why should you come up with a text
in french and then translate it to English when it is destined
to...See More
6 hrs · Like · 1
Woro Deschamps I realised many so decided not to address Mr Acha's
concerns which were right.
6 hrs · Like · 1
Lenny B Behyia Oh NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! The S
4 hrs · Like · 1
On 4/23/14, Ofege Ntemfac <ntemfacnchwete@gmail.com> wrote:
> Democracy is only a means to an end, which end is the unfettering of man so
> that man can maximize his potentials socially, economically,
> intellectually, politically, etc. There would have been a fine
> contradiction if the reign of terror obtained only in the occupied Southern
> Cameroons. But to smokescreen its violent nature the colonial regime
> maintains a standing army in the occupied Southern Cameroons while denying
> human and democratic rights to its own citizens as well. This is
> understandable. Whereas there are neither good nor bad colonists but just
> plain colonists, the colonial power dreads several things 1. Its own
> citizens might rise up to condemn the occupation of the Southern Cameroons
> or 2. Southern Cameroonians may use the democratic infrastructute to demand
> an end to colonial occupation. While the colonizer regime maintains a tight
> leash on the avenues and instruments of communications other colonizers put
> a sly smile on their voided faces and pragmatically add, just among
> ourselves: anyhow, let them mouth off, it makes them feel better; their
> bark is worse than their bite.
>
> Another generation came, which shifted the argument. With incredible
> patience, its writers and poets tried to explain to us that our values were
> poorly suited to the reality of their lives, that they could neither
> entirely reject them nor assimilate them. By and large, that meant: you are
> making monsters of us; your humanism claims that we are universal but your
> racist practices set us apart. We listened to them, very relaxed: colonial
> administrators are not paid to read Hegel, and in any case they read him
> very little, but they have no need of this philosopher to know that an
> unhappy consciousness gets entangled in its contradictions - result, zero
> effectiveness. Let us therefore perpetuate their unhappiness: only hot air
> will come of it. If there were the hint of a demand in their moaning, the
> experts told us, it would be for integration. There was no question of
> granting it, of course: that would have ruined the system which rests, as
> you know, on over-exploitation. But it would suffice to hold this carrot
> before their eyes: they would gallop. As for their revolting, we were
> quiteuntroubled: what sensible native would go and massacre the fine sons
> of Europe with the sole aim of becoming European like them? In short, we
> encouraged this melancholy and were once not averse to awarding the Prix
> Goncourt to a negro: that was before 1939.
>
> Be that as it may, while some citizens of the colonist state may
> objectively reject the colonial reality it is a tested fact that the
> majority are carry along by the colonial apparatus and thus only condemn
> the colonization of the Southern Cameroons in their dreams or actively
> indulge in acts that aide and abet the oppression visited by their colonial
> state on those they claim to be their brothers.
>
> Rather than an outburst from a member of the lunatic fringe of the
> francophone Nationalist Party, the following incendiary (including the
> profanities and invectives) anti Southern Cameroonian posting on the
> Internet from a certain Amougou Gregoire Tsoungui Ondoa alias Alain Dipoko,
> averred member of the Eton tribe and thus a Biya confederate, is reflective
> of the viewpoint of majoritarian francophone compradors about the minority
> Southern Cameroonians.
>
>
>
> *"As rotten as your CDC, your roads and educational system. Anglos shall
> always remain in the leash because they are crazy. Some of you clean
> toilettes, besides doing fey mania yet you cannot develop the villages you
> come from. The same huts and wooden structures or unpainted brick houses
> have lined the streets since the days of the Southern Cameroons golden
> days. Empty vessels say those thrash to those francophones who have not
> travelled to your backward communities. A man like Ngembus would die in
> England because he has nothing to show for his many years of defection.
> Asylum seekers, my foot.*
>
> *If anglos love the Southern Cameroons so much why build houses in Yaounde
> and Douala instead of your Southern Cameroons ? Should you start trouble
> again in Cameroon, all those houses shall be destroyed as a retaliatory
> move. I think you forgot what Emma Basil, once did to your ilk in Yaounde.
> Swine. Bloody fools. Olangnozout.*
>
> *Instead of crying over spilled milk why not join me to enjoy this
> wonderful Bikutsi by the Tetes Brulees. It is entitled ESSINGAN. Jealous
> anglos. Click on to YouTube and dance. It shall be the campaign song in
> 2011."*
>
> Posted by: Alain Dipoko, Yabassi Boy. <http://yahoo.com/> | September 10,
> 2009 at 11:56
> AM<http://www.chiareport.com/2009/09/paul-biya-buckles-down-on-ewondo-opposition-but-g11-torch-passes-on.html?cid=6a00d83451ce8669e20120a5b7a630970c#comment-6a00d83451ce8669e20120a5b7a630970c>
>
>
>
> Another time Amougou Gregoire Tsoungui Ondoa alias Alain Dipoko posted:
>
> THE ASSIMILATION AND PARTICIPATION OF SOUTHERN CAMEROONIANS IS ON TRACT AS
> PREDICTED IN 1972 REUNIFICATION REFERENDUM.
>
> *"Water and paraffin cannot mix. Separation is the only answer. I do not
> want to have anything to do with these dirty stupid frogs". These are the
> postings of this pig head, son of a wolowos, Slomo. But he has not
> explained why he did not go to his beloved (S) Cameroons to work and elects
> to stay and work in La Republique du Cameroun for the past ten years.*
>
> *He talks of knowing Emma Basil, better than me which is no big deal
> because, perhaps he was his slave. He should enquire from other anglos what
> it was like in the early 1990s in Yaounde. Empty headed anglofou. Why have
> I become so rude? It is the only language some Southern Cameroonians
> understand. When you are civil to them, they take that as a sign of
> weakness. All along I have been very polite to every body in this forum.
> But my demeanor was misread as a weak person. I am not, trust me. Any one
> who has come across Etones will tell that, they are not selfish with blows,
> knives, and even guns when fighting is concerned. To sit back and allow a
> bastard who inhabits one of the seedy streets of Yaounde like Tsinga Elobi,
> Mokolo, Obili, Melen, Briquetterrie, Mvog-Ada is just unacceptable.*
>
> *Not long I said some anglos are a curiosity that needs a complete
> psychiatric makeover. Apart from working in the detested French Cameroun,
> he has become an ethnologist and linguist. These are traits all slaves who
> want favor from their masters do. He has learned Ewondo and Etone to the
> extent of teaching a son of Obala his native tongue. He knows more French
> than someone who is using the language daily in his office.*
>
> *The assimilation and participation is working as predicted in 1972. Very
> soon we shall include Etone, Ewondo and Bulu to be taught in all primary
> schools in the Southern Cameroonian Cameroons. What about that? Dirty
> anglofou.*
>
> Posted by: Alain Dipoko, Yabassi Boy. <http://yahoo.com/> | September 12,
> 2009 at 11:01
> AM<http://www.chiareport.com/2009/09/paul-biya-buckles-down-on-ewondo-opposition-but-g11-torch-passes-on.html?cid=6a00d83451ce8669e20120a5be4e08970c#comment-6a00d83451ce8669e20120a5be4e08970c>
> [1] <file:///E:/Long%20Walk%20to%20Freedom%20Land.doc#_ftn1>
>
> Amougou Gregoire Tsoungui Ondoa alias Alain Dipoko is in excellent company
> when it comes to cross-border fire.
>
> As a last resort, the majority culture resorts to state-sponsored economic
> cleansing and other genocidal practices to get rid of the unwelcome and
> troublesome presence. And violence (war) is used to keep the slaves in
> their proper place of subservience. In extreme cases (and the Cameroonian
> scenario is extreme by all definitions) genocidal practices (ethnic and
> economic cleansing, intellectual terrorism, violence) against "the
> troublesome presence" starts at the initial level of conflict.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> [1] <file:///E:/Long%20Walk%20to%20Freedom%20Land.doc#_ftnref1> Posted by
> another Blogger. WARNING TO BLOGGERS. Alain Dipoko, is indeed AMOUGOU
> GREGOIRE TSOUNGUI ONDOUA. He is one of the many children Andze Tsoungui had
> out of wedlock.He is a bastard. This bullfrog was assigned by CENER in
> 1990, to trail Senfo Tokam, during the student Parliament days. Does anyone
> remember Kontcou's zero mort speech? Together with Ngoufack, they formed
> the Auto Defense, that harrassed Bami and anglophone students who were
> hostile to the CPDM. Culture. He is currently working at the Presidency of
> the Republic.He came here at the CNN headquarters at Atlanta, to do some
> laundry(PR) for his boss Paul, aka Loius XIV and Marie Antoinette Chantal
> Biya. Guess what? I was asked to interview him but I feigned a headache.Why
> should I be in the same room with my tormentor?
>
> --
>
>
>
> The thing always happens that you really believe in; and the belief in a
> thing makes it happen.
>
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