Dear
We should e happy to live ini india where we have opoortunity to learn many language
Every thing is right as long u r in the high end grub and drub how many has this opportunity to move around and even when they move if u converse in a language which others don't understand of no use. but i feel in this country still english plays vital role since not the influence of British rule but why not to think that English only united and showed us united india, If u travel interior maharashtral they talk in marati shich is different.
States with complete difference from Hindi
1. Assam
2. Bengal
3. Chattisgarg and MP 17 languages spoken across apart from Hindi
4. Konkini Goans
5. Karnatka
6. Kerala
7 Tamil Nadu
8 A.P
9. J & K
10 Naga
11. Manipuri
12. Oriya
13. Except Guj/ Raj where language has more influence from Hindi
14. Sourashtra and mnay more no writen script.
How can we unite them in one language when ideology differs we should be happy as we are still be united by one mantra as Indians.
Regards
V.Saravanan
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On Sunday, May 25, 2014 5:22 AM, Prabhakar Waghodekar <waghodekar@rediffmail.com> wrote:
For my Matriculation in mid-1959 (SSC: 11th std as SSC) I had opted for four language:
Marathi, Hindi, English and Sanskrit and General Science, Special Arithmetic,
and Algebra & Geometry, each subject of 100 marks, 100 marks in Arithmetic, 98 in Algebra-
Geometry and 85b in Sanskrit.
I had to my credit Pravin (Hindi) Exam and two Drawing Examinations before I entered 11th Std,
completed Pandit (Hindi) Later.
___________________________________________________________________
On Sat, 24 May 2014 11:56:27 +0530 wrote
>Like our Prof.Virender Goel Ji, I too had a 3 language formula experimentation during school
days in Vadodara, Gujarat. We had Hindi & Gujarati both and Sanskrit till 7th grade. During
the early days it is easy for children to learn a new language and when the same is used in
daily interactions with friends...it tends to become a part of You. Though South
Indians....even to this day whenever me & my siblings..2 sisters and an elder brother...speak
to each other on phone, we automatically switch to Gujarati.
Also it dapends on the zeal and enthusiasm of the learner. We had an Accounts Officer from
South ( a Kannadiga gentleman Mr.R.Sudhakar ) who joined Music World, Ahmedabad when it
started retail operations in 2000. Now this gentleman didn't know a single word of Hindi or
Gujarati...but in the company of youngsters....and with his zeal to learn...within a year he
was speaking both Hindi and Gujarati quite well....though I had to often guide him from
sidestepping the slang language which youngsters would often teach him. So I am of the
conclusion that there is no bar for learning new things so long as you put your heart into it.
During my Graduation, I used to go for evening classes in Dept.of Foreign Language in our
College - M.S.University to learn German. In that class there was a Retired General Manager
from PNB who also used to come as regular student paying a higher fee...and he already knew
Japanese, Chinese (mandarin ). French & Russian language....a sort of linguistic
freak....after the German classes ( 1 hour - twice a week ), he would often hold me back to
learn Tamil from me....and though I knew very little but for his sake, I used to sit with my
Grandma and pick up a bit so that I could pass on to him...and this gentleman was around 68
yrs or more....and Thanks to him, I was able to learn reading my own mother-tongue. Whenver I
come across the column Mother tongue in any form, I tend to have a mixed feelings as though
I'm a Tamilian and Tamil should be the one in the column...at heart I'm a Barodian....and it
would often cross my mind that the column should not at all be there as it is polarizing the
country...instead why not be a Hindustani.....in classical music....whether Hindustani or
Carnatic...it is the artists skill which is appreciated not his lineage.
Regds,
Stephen
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Sankar Muthukumar wrote:
Dear Ms.Kamaladevi,
As a professor working abroad, I had and also having the experience of people asking 'why I
don't know hindi when I am from India'.
But we need not be ashamed of it. People asking like that are ill-informed about our country's
diversity in having many languages and many ethnicities across the sub-continent.
Politics over language is going on since Gandhiji!
Recently I was reading one of Gandhiji's contradictions with regard to language. When he
wanted to unite people across India to fight against British he thought the language can be of
useful and thus he wanted to promote Hindi. And he is the first one (even before officially
Hindi was imposed by Nehru's Government in Free India) to impose Hindi among non-hindi
speaking states.
One of his statements was shocking and 200% contradictory!
when it comes to language, he wanted the minority (non- hindi speaking people) to learn Hindi
forcibly and he even went on to say that the minority (Bengalis, Tamils, Telugu, Kannada &
Malayalam) should not expect the majority (hindi speaking people) to learn their languages
(Bengali, Tamil, Kannada, Telugu) instead the minority should learn the language spoken by the
majority, i.e. Hindi.
But, when it comes to Religion, he didn't told the Minority (Muslims, especially) to follow
the majority (the Hindus), instead he told that majority should protect the minorities and
respect their feelings and sentiments.
Dr.Sankara Muthu KumarSenior LecturerBahrain Training InstituteDr.S.Sankaramuthukumar, Ph.D.
Senior Lecturer
Bahrain Training Institute
Issa Town
The Kingdom of Bahrain
+973 36615395
On 22 May 2014 20:10, Kamala Devi wrote:
Dear Professionals,Thanks to Mr. Vishwas Gupta forinitiating such a wonderful
debate.Eventhough welive outof the country, we are proud to be anIndian, but ashamed to say
that we couldn't speak the national language.
As we are from southern part of India, we have the reading and writing skill of Hindi... don't
know to speak...When you are outside the country, the people assumes that Indians know Hindi
because it is their national language. The other Asian nationalities (Pakistan, Srilanka,
Bangladesh, Nepal, to name a few) come and speak to us in Hindi.. When we say, we don't know
to speak Hindi... They ask us, you are an Indian, how come you don't know to speak in Hindi...
Even if you are a doctorate, it doesn't work out... It is really shame to say we don't know to
speak the mother tongue, of course the national language is similar to the mother tongue...
Later we had an urge to learnto speak in Hindi and it is in process successfully...
The reason why am I sharing this information is, "Every Indian must know to read, write and
speak in Hindi... because it is a national language... need to be treated as mother tongue...
it shouldn't be the optional subject in the school... When English is a compulsory subject,
whyshould Hindi be an optional subject... Who will take the steps to include Hindi as
compulsory subject in the schools.. whatever curriculum they are..At least the next generation
shouldn't face this problem..."
With Warm Regards,Kamaladevi B
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Vishwas Gupta wrote:
Hindi has been accepted as official language
along with 22 other languages as per the Official Languages Act 1963.Thereafter
it has been never honored as ‘National Language’ officially, except
As per article 343 (1) (Chapter 16) of the constitution
of India, "The Official Language
of the Union shall be Hindi in Devanagari
script. Sole official language means more than a national language because
there is no recognition of any other languages of India
As per article 120, and in spite of anything in part XVII, but subject
to the provisions of article 348 â€" The business in Parliament shall be
transacted in Hindi or in English
As
per article 344 â€" the president can use the Hindi as a progressive
language and can restrict the use of English for official purpose
Article
351 states about the duty of union government to promote Hindi language.
Still, Does India have a national language? No,
says the Gujarat High Court. On Jan
25, 2010, the court observed that in India, a majority of people have
accepted Hindi as a national language and many speak Hindi and write in
Devanagari script, but it's not officially the national language. With
this observation, a bench headed by Chief Justice S J Mukhopadhaya refused to
issue directions that packaged commodities must contain details about goods in
Hindi.
Either is it Dravidian, Maithli, Malawi,
Assamese, Bengali…..Do all these various languages can ever be able to dismantle
the social division? There are some parts of India which do not like Hindi at
all. They even have no respect for this language. I agree language can never be
imposed but still can’t we have an official language?
Even we so called professionals do not like to communicate
in Hindi language at all? Few days back I have just tried to share one thread
in Hindi only but it was not forwarded by the admin side? Well no issue in that….That's why
I am trying to just initiate a soft debate on it?
Hope we will get some answers in favor ot it.
--
Vishwas Gupta
Assistant Professor
Department of BusinessLovely Professional University
Jalandhar (Punjab) 144411
India
+91-84370-61270
vishwas01@gmail.com
http://vishwas-inc.blogspot.com
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Marathi, Hindi, English and Sanskrit and General Science, Special Arithmetic,
and Algebra & Geometry, each subject of 100 marks, 100 marks in Arithmetic, 98 in Algebra-
Geometry and 85b in Sanskrit.
I had to my credit Pravin (Hindi) Exam and two Drawing Examinations before I entered 11th Std,
completed Pandit (Hindi) Later.
___________________________________________________________________
On Sat, 24 May 2014 11:56:27 +0530 wrote
>Like our Prof.Virender Goel Ji, I too had a 3 language formula experimentation during school
days in Vadodara, Gujarat. We had Hindi & Gujarati both and Sanskrit till 7th grade. During
the early days it is easy for children to learn a new language and when the same is used in
daily interactions with friends...it tends to become a part of You. Though South
Indians....even to this day whenever me & my siblings..2 sisters and an elder brother...speak
to each other on phone, we automatically switch to Gujarati.
Also it dapends on the zeal and enthusiasm of the learner. We had an Accounts Officer from
South ( a Kannadiga gentleman Mr.R.Sudhakar ) who joined Music World, Ahmedabad when it
started retail operations in 2000. Now this gentleman didn't know a single word of Hindi or
Gujarati...but in the company of youngsters....and with his zeal to learn...within a year he
was speaking both Hindi and Gujarati quite well....though I had to often guide him from
sidestepping the slang language which youngsters would often teach him. So I am of the
conclusion that there is no bar for learning new things so long as you put your heart into it.
During my Graduation, I used to go for evening classes in Dept.of Foreign Language in our
College - M.S.University to learn German. In that class there was a Retired General Manager
from PNB who also used to come as regular student paying a higher fee...and he already knew
Japanese, Chinese (mandarin ). French & Russian language....a sort of linguistic
freak....after the German classes ( 1 hour - twice a week ), he would often hold me back to
learn Tamil from me....and though I knew very little but for his sake, I used to sit with my
Grandma and pick up a bit so that I could pass on to him...and this gentleman was around 68
yrs or more....and Thanks to him, I was able to learn reading my own mother-tongue. Whenver I
come across the column Mother tongue in any form, I tend to have a mixed feelings as though
I'm a Tamilian and Tamil should be the one in the column...at heart I'm a Barodian....and it
would often cross my mind that the column should not at all be there as it is polarizing the
country...instead why not be a Hindustani.....in classical music....whether Hindustani or
Carnatic...it is the artists skill which is appreciated not his lineage.
Regds,
Stephen
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Sankar Muthukumar wrote:
Dear Ms.Kamaladevi,
As a professor working abroad, I had and also having the experience of people asking 'why I
don't know hindi when I am from India'.
But we need not be ashamed of it. People asking like that are ill-informed about our country's
diversity in having many languages and many ethnicities across the sub-continent.
Politics over language is going on since Gandhiji!
Recently I was reading one of Gandhiji's contradictions with regard to language. When he
wanted to unite people across India to fight against British he thought the language can be of
useful and thus he wanted to promote Hindi. And he is the first one (even before officially
Hindi was imposed by Nehru's Government in Free India) to impose Hindi among non-hindi
speaking states.
One of his statements was shocking and 200% contradictory!
when it comes to language, he wanted the minority (non- hindi speaking people) to learn Hindi
forcibly and he even went on to say that the minority (Bengalis, Tamils, Telugu, Kannada &
Malayalam) should not expect the majority (hindi speaking people) to learn their languages
(Bengali, Tamil, Kannada, Telugu) instead the minority should learn the language spoken by the
majority, i.e. Hindi.
But, when it comes to Religion, he didn't told the Minority (Muslims, especially) to follow
the majority (the Hindus), instead he told that majority should protect the minorities and
respect their feelings and sentiments.
Dr.Sankara Muthu KumarSenior LecturerBahrain Training InstituteDr.S.Sankaramuthukumar, Ph.D.
Senior Lecturer
Bahrain Training Institute
Issa Town
The Kingdom of Bahrain
+973 36615395
On 22 May 2014 20:10, Kamala Devi wrote:
Dear Professionals,Thanks to Mr. Vishwas Gupta forinitiating such a wonderful
debate.Eventhough welive outof the country, we are proud to be anIndian, but ashamed to say
that we couldn't speak the national language.
As we are from southern part of India, we have the reading and writing skill of Hindi... don't
know to speak...When you are outside the country, the people assumes that Indians know Hindi
because it is their national language. The other Asian nationalities (Pakistan, Srilanka,
Bangladesh, Nepal, to name a few) come and speak to us in Hindi.. When we say, we don't know
to speak Hindi... They ask us, you are an Indian, how come you don't know to speak in Hindi...
Even if you are a doctorate, it doesn't work out... It is really shame to say we don't know to
speak the mother tongue, of course the national language is similar to the mother tongue...
Later we had an urge to learnto speak in Hindi and it is in process successfully...
The reason why am I sharing this information is, "Every Indian must know to read, write and
speak in Hindi... because it is a national language... need to be treated as mother tongue...
it shouldn't be the optional subject in the school... When English is a compulsory subject,
whyshould Hindi be an optional subject... Who will take the steps to include Hindi as
compulsory subject in the schools.. whatever curriculum they are..At least the next generation
shouldn't face this problem..."
With Warm Regards,Kamaladevi B
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Vishwas Gupta wrote:
Hindi has been accepted as official language
along with 22 other languages as per the Official Languages Act 1963.Thereafter
it has been never honored as ‘National Language’ officially, except
As per article 343 (1) (Chapter 16) of the constitution
of India, "The Official Language
of the Union shall be Hindi in Devanagari
script. Sole official language means more than a national language because
there is no recognition of any other languages of India
As per article 120, and in spite of anything in part XVII, but subject
to the provisions of article 348 â€" The business in Parliament shall be
transacted in Hindi or in English
As
per article 344 â€" the president can use the Hindi as a progressive
language and can restrict the use of English for official purpose
Article
351 states about the duty of union government to promote Hindi language.
Still, Does India have a national language? No,
says the Gujarat High Court. On Jan
25, 2010, the court observed that in India, a majority of people have
accepted Hindi as a national language and many speak Hindi and write in
Devanagari script, but it's not officially the national language. With
this observation, a bench headed by Chief Justice S J Mukhopadhaya refused to
issue directions that packaged commodities must contain details about goods in
Hindi.
Either is it Dravidian, Maithli, Malawi,
Assamese, Bengali…..Do all these various languages can ever be able to dismantle
the social division? There are some parts of India which do not like Hindi at
all. They even have no respect for this language. I agree language can never be
imposed but still can’t we have an official language?
Even we so called professionals do not like to communicate
in Hindi language at all? Few days back I have just tried to share one thread
in Hindi only but it was not forwarded by the admin side? Well no issue in that….That's why
I am trying to just initiate a soft debate on it?
Hope we will get some answers in favor ot it.
--
Vishwas Gupta
Assistant Professor
Department of BusinessLovely Professional University
Jalandhar (Punjab) 144411
India
+91-84370-61270
vishwas01@gmail.com
http://vishwas-inc.blogspot.com
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