Re: RE: [MTC Global] [Weekend Big Debate] Sex Education in School

Vijendra, Illness has different forms . Even "Medical Science" agrees that most illness are psychosomatic . Here the illness is the psychological, and sex education creates understanding and knowledge, about the opposite sex "reproductive process " and sex organs that one can realize it, as a biological and natural stuff . This education helps one to get "cure" many perverted thinking, and also fantasy, which might be in these minds,which takes form of sexual and legal offences towards opposite sex, and direct the mind towards proper appreciation of opposite sex. 

  On the other end if you are delivered "Value Education" then mind is focused on ideas of "Character building" throwing out negativity , purifying the mind from the samskaras. This minds normally are so engaged in the inwardness , that they had hardly any time to focus on objects, that takes mind outward. The are just so pure , that the idea of "lust and sex" normally doesn't get rise on these minds , until unless they are subjected to extreme situation. This way these "prevents" those perverted thinking and fantasy to take form even, which will lead them towards sexual and legal offences, towards opposite sex.My experience on meeting these  spiritually inclined person, who are deeply engrossed in values of divine or higher principles , are, they hardly recognized people or demarcate them on lines of sex, race , religion. 

    

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On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 10:42 AM, 'Vijendra Kumar' via Management Teachers Consortium, Global <join_mtc@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Dear  Joydeep,

Both sex education and value education are 'kind of preventive aspect. Sex education is curative because No diagnosable illness exists. But it focuses on creating awareness and choice of your consequences of sex related behaviour.

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Prof. Vijendra Kumar S.K.

Assistant Professor & Counseling Psychologist

PES University

Bangalore

On Sunday, June 29, 2014 9:11 PM, Sri Joydip <joydip.chakladar@gmail.com> wrote:

Good lifestyle , Cholesterol free diet, early morning walk, helps to prevent heart disease.Does that mean when a person with a heart attack comes to emergency, doctor would suggest such means of good life style , early morning walk ?

At that point , he would give medicine that the patient gets cure, and he is out of the threat.Later he would suggest that the patient change his lifestyle that he can prevent, any other such situation.There is a time when preventive medicine are given, and there is a time when curative medicine are given. Both are necessary.

Similarly , value education is prevention , sex education is cure.There is a time when value education should be given and there is a time when sex education should be given. Both are necessary.

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On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Prabhakar Waghodekar <waghodekar@rediffmail.com> wrote:

We the intellectual many a times forget about the design of nature.
There are no schools, no hospitals, etc., for plants, animals or any
other living organisms. It is man who has developed certain systems
like formal/informal/distance education, hospitals, markets,
business, governance, etc., that of course essential because man is
endowed with intellect (thinking power)but has many other physical
weaknesses.

Like fear and death, sex is a life instinct. It is a cunningly
devised natural mechanism to continue the cycle of living organisms
endlessly. In case of human beings, the age of puberty normally 12
to 14 years and the desire of sex for procreation continues to grow;
say; up to the age of 30-35 years and then it starts declining. Some
living organisms die immediately after sex! There is a regular
period for all animals for mating but not so for man. This is what
is the natural way of procreation.

Man's history about 2000 years is known to us. Sex issue has been
dealt differently at different times depending upon the social,
religious, economical, and political conditions. In all such cases
we need to admit that the think tanks of those days set certain code
of conduct in the sex matters. For example, marriages were set when
the kids were in wombs, child marriages, etc., mostly for social
safety point of view.

Indian ancient literature is far advanced in sex matters but it
started changing face depending upon needs then existing. For
example, rape cases were unheard 7-8 decades ago, and toady in
modern age?

Sex is a pious act so to say adding value to natural procreation.
Its awareness/training can be imparted both formally and informally.
Instinct of course plays a vital role and one can gets information
from peers and elders at the appropriate age say 15 years, mainly
father for boy and mother for girl. Tantra Sect is totally dependent
on sex.

There is another side to the issue, to learn Samyam, to understand
limitations, to assess the boundaries and not to cross them. The
power of procreation needs to be preserved, it is very precious and
used to be utilized sparingly, when it is actually needed in the
interests of social cause. I many a times think why such a
confusion in the land of Ramakrishna Paramhansa and Swami
Vivekananda?

Ashtang Yoga comprises of 8 facets, Yama (Values), Nimyama (rules,
observance, etc.), Asana (posture (physical exercise), Pranayama
(equivalent to breath control), Pratyahar (retraining senses and
mind), Dyan (equivalent to mediation), Dharana (equivalent to
relaxed awareness) and Samadhi (one with Cosmos). If these things
are followed, sex automatically assumes a vital place in man's life
and many of the ill problems are likely to die away.

It is the high time to adopt the appropriate path so that the demon
of perverted sex will not swallow the society. Yes, creating
awareness about sex is one of the ways but its inclusion in
curriculum like value education may fetch a very limited success.
The teachers, parents and elders will have to lead the young
generation in the right direction through dialogue, illustration,
examples, etc.

I would be happy if somebody proposes something in this direction.
In my Institute, we always invite lady doctors and lady students
have free dialogue with them. At times, counselling is also done.
Boys are also informally made aware of the issues, arranging talks
of experts, free dialogue with them and provide some relevant
literature so that they are not taken away by pornography or some
such other (social(?))media.

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On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 09:27:40 +0530 wrote

> I wonder if senior members on the forum who did not have sex
education in school, to any other counseling and literature did
learn about sexual practices and why at that time we had rare
incidents of rapes or any other vitiated form of sex. May be we can

take some lead from our own experiences.Let me start with my
experience from my village â€" girls got first lesson from their
mothers on attaining puberty and menstrual cycle’s beginning.

Later
on at marriageable age they had discussion with their 4/5 senior
friends and colleagues who were already married and were experienced
on the subject. Similarly 14/15 years old boys learned from their
friends and cousins who were married and senior to them only by 4/5

years. I wonder if this experience answers Padmaji’s question.When
a
boy or a girl married â€" experienced friends and cousins from both
sides, systematically trained the bride/groom â€" what he/she should

expect on the first night - what all would happen and how it will be

dealt with. And as said by Dr. Reddy â€" nature has provided an

instinct to every living being who have been provided with sex organ

by nature.RegardsVirendra GoelFrom: join_mtc@googlegroups.com

[mailto:join_mtc@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of padma misra
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 8:03 PM
To: join_mtc@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: [MTC Global] [Weekend Big Debate] Sex Education in

SchoolMy question still remains unanswered...With a large majority

dropping out of schools at a pre-teen age, with child marriages

still going on, with khap panchyats having their sway..How many will
end up having such a kind of gendre sensitivity?Only those who go to
school...yesIt will end up being looked as an urban problem.How do
the illustrious members of MTC respond to this simple problem?Thanks
and regardsDr. Padma misra--

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