Re: [MTC Global] Poor teacher-student ratio reason for Indian varsities not appearing in global list: Pune Univ VC

Faculty: Students Ratio:

Prof Wasudeo N Gade, Vice Chancellor of the Savitribai Phule Pune
University has said that Indian universities fail to appear in the
top global educational institutes'; list because of the poor
teacher-student ratio.
Prof Gade said while the ideal teacher-student ratio is believed to
be 1:8 or lower, the figure is much higher here. He also urged the
governor to ask the government to sanction more teaching posts for
the university.
"The teacher student ratio on the university campus is 1:13. The
figure would vary in colleges affiliated to the university, but
there are colleges where it would be much worse," VC said.
The university has about 5,500 students on its campus and sanctioned
staff strength of 450 teachers, of which 129 posts are lying vacant,
he said, adding that the vacancies have not been filled because of
delays in the process of roster verification.
Roster verification is an exercise by which the staff strength of
the university is assessed to ensure that the reservation quotas,
such as those for scheduled castes, scheduled tribes, other backward
castes, are properly implemented.
The initial delay was caused due to a change in the manner in which
the roster verification was carried out. Until now it was carried
out at the department level, but this was changed to university
level, he said. "However, the introduction of reservations for
Marathas and Muslims and subsequent stay on the matter by the Bombay
High Court has left the new appointment of teachers in a limbo,"
Gade added, reported ToI.

PHW Comments:
It is really a matter of great concern to read the comments "Indian
universities fail to appear in the top global educational
institutes'; list because of the poor teacher-student ratio".

We need to go deeper.
1.
What was the status of quality of education say 6 decades ago and
that of today?
2.
In higher education, normally the set standards for faculty:
Student's ratio is: 1:15 for UG and 1:10 for PG. With the rise in
number of students, the faculty position also has been rising
(improving). In fact, the % of vacant posts a few decades ago was
higher than that of today due to regulation and awareness in
institutes.
3.
Is it proper to assess our performance in terms of some quantitative
criteria adapted in advanced countries without regards to our local
issues, our efforts to be competitive, input-processing-output
scenario, etc.?
4.
In the age of e-knowledge, e-technology and e-learning, what is the
significance of faculty: student's ratio? In fact, it is of very
minor concern now.
5.
Are we putting right efforts to improve the scenario using such
tools as Lean philosophy, Kaizen, JIT, SMED, PDCA, 5S, etc.?
6
what are our achievements in adopting green-education, wastage
reduction, paperless institutes, processing small batches of
students like small batch manufacturing using techniques like
cellular manufacturing, sequencing and scheduling of academic
activities(we actually utilize hardly 30% time of academic year for
real academic work), automaton, FMS, etc.?

Does not the said comment show our helplessness in the matter?
***28/11/2014 PHW
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On Fri, 28 Nov 2014 07:20:21 +0530 drjaganmohanreddy
wrote
> Prof Pratap Reddy Sir rightly said so.It's the passion which
brings value to the teaching as a profession.When a teacher is
passionate about his work he tries to enrich himself by reading,
writing and if possible some consultancy as well.Management teaching
for me is slightly different from regular PG teaching and the mantra
to be followed is Read Reflect and Relate.Unless and until we are
able to make the student go through this process (understanding the
concept, reflecting upon its application and finally able to relate
to the outside happenings) he will not be able to give a good
account of himself/herself, when he or she steps outside the temple
of learning.It's in his own interest and that of his students that
the teacher must keep himself up to date. Because it is
said"Obsolete technology is dangerous but obsolete human resources
is disastrous".Best wishes.DrA Jagan Mohan Reddy

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-------- Original message --------From: "'Dr. Pratap Reddy S' via
Management Teachers Consortium, Global" Date:27/11/2014 21:31
(GMT+05:30) To: join_mtc@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [MTC Global]
Poor teacher-student ratio reason for Indian varsities not appearing
in global list: Pune Univ VC
A HUMBLE TAKE:It's not just numbers -but is QUANTITY Vs QUALITYI
know a university where teacher student ration was 1:8 and with
about 18 professors present on the campus, no single session was on
except one where there was a lone student with a teacher in a
particular class and student was bound to wheel chair !
Besides numbers,teachers must pursue research,publication and
consulting actively apart from teaching innovatively relevant
.Dr.S.Pratap ReddyFounder Chairman
From: Prof. Bholanath Dutta
To: join_mtc
Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2014 9:00 PM
Subject: [MTC Global] Poor teacher-student ratio reason for Indian
varsities not appearing in global list: Pune Univ VC

Prof Wasudeo N Gade, Vice Chancellor of the Savitribai Phule Pune
University has said that Indian universities fail to appear in the
top global educational institutes' list because of the poor teacher-
student ratio.Prof Gade said while the ideal teacher-student ratio
is believed to be 1:8 or lower, the figure is much higher here. He
also urged the governor to ask the government to sanction more
teaching posts for the university."The teacher student ratio on the
university campus is1:13. The figure would vary in colleges
affiliated to the university, but there are colleges where it would
be much worse," VC said.The university has about 5,500 students on
its campus and a sanctioned staff strength of 450 teachers, of which
129 posts are lying vacant, he said, adding that the vacancies have
not been filled because of delays in the process of roster
verification.Roster verification is an exercise by which the staff
strength of the university is assessed to ensure that the
reservation quotas, such as those for scheduled castes, scheduled
tribes, other backward castes, are properly implemented.The initial
delay was caused due to a change in the manner in which the roster
verification was carried out. Until now it was carried out at the
department level, but this was changed to university level, he said.
"However, the introduction of reservations for Marathas and Muslims
and subsequent stay on the matter by the Bombay High Court has left
the new appointment of teachers in a limbo," Gade added,
reportedToI.
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