RE: [MTC Global] No Indian university in Times Higher Education ‘top 100 under 50’ rankings

It is not the case of Government Schools, there are thousands and lacs of private schools (you can see them in every town and city) where children of lower income group study – they are able to attract students because they are slightly better than the government schools, otherwise they are also less than mediocre.

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Virendra Goel

 

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Respected fraternity,                          May 3,2015

                                             Tirupati greets you.Before talking about the University System of Education,first talk about the Primary Education standards.In how many government schools have quality, committed teachers with physical facilities like labs,mid meal programme,toilets,greenery,biodiversity etc.In rural India,government schools are more in number.How many IAS,IPS,MLAs,MPs,Ministers children are going for government schools in rural India. All top bureaucrats,Publicmen are settled in Urban.They want posh locality AC public schools for their children.The Middle High schools,Junior colleges,Degree colleges are also in the same neglected position.All teachers are coming at 11.00 a.m from urban to rural by Hero Honda bike and going back at 4.00 p.m.No committed teacher is found in rural.Education is an exploitative business.Appointments are made by politicians,bureaucrats by corruption.Merit is dead.Quality foundation inputs lead to quality output at University level.We are in globalization and all found comparison.Rich can go to USA,European countries for quality and employment.All Nobel prizes have come only in West.Few bunch institutions like IITs,IIMs,JNU,Delhi University are also in inbreeding.We have to invite quality American,European,African teacher to teach in rural India for upgrading global standards.Hire and fire is needed for maintaining  quality and creativity at global standards..Compromising with caste,class,colour,region,language means you cannot get quality.Inventions and innovations have come from quality only.

with warm regards,

Sincerely yours,

Prof.A.Ranga Reddy,M.A,Ph.D.,

EX-UGC Emeritus fellow,Dept.of Economics,Sri Venkateswara University,Tirupati-517502.(M)09849741654

 

 

On Saturday, 2 May 2015 7:44 PM, "'Usha Rani cherukupallis' via Management Teachers Consortium, Global" <join_mtc@googlegroups.com> wrote:

 

Dear all

Every country has its own greatness.and In India also educational Institutions such as IIM's and IIT's and some other institutions  has good teachers, excellent teachers , young and  experienced teachers. Let us not degrade ourselves. But at the same time we should accept the fact that  students from ordinary colleges (engg and MBA) don't know the basic concepts of any subject and cannot understand any language. Majority universities course curriculum and examination system  is very poor. If we can change and improve standards definitely we can achieve good results. It is immaterial whether any magazine or newspaper includes or not. Who knows how far that news is reliable. because recently I saw in a newspaper, one of the college included as best one in which PG students are not able to understand subject even in their local language/mother tongue. So every individual has to improve their own standards and work hard for the development of future citizens. Thank You.

 

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Usha Rani

 

 

 

 

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Dear Dr Bose,

It is v v important to accept the fact and analyze and rectify. It is such a typical Indian mentality  to cry victim. It is high time that we stop this habit and go ahead this is why America is always the winner. Because the concept is stop, realize that there has been mistake, learn from it and implement!!! Cheers!!!

Purnima 

Date: Sat, 2 May 2015 11:49:18 +0400
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Dear all, 

I think another important factor plays important roles for the dismal performance of Indian universities or institutions. It might be also due to not allowing of Indian market to foreign universities and institutes on Indian soil. Till China opened its territory for setting up foreign university campuses, even same Chinese universities were not given good ranking by the rating agencies. I think some of the universities and institutions really deserve high ranking from India, but they have been made deprived only due to the some of sort of vindictive mentality of the rating agencies against the government policy of non allowing foreign universities on Indian soil. I am associated with British education system for almost last one and half years.I have seen even some good ranking universities of UK are nothing much superior in terms of curriculum or like that. We should not also be guided by western rankings, but should give honest effort to keep on setting higher benchmarks against world's best continuously. We will definitely get the result.                                                  Thanks and regards,                   Dr.Indranil Bose

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Dear sir
Why we expect more when we are doing less.
Are we promoting young teachers.
A professor not having any research paper make rule for indexed research paper for young teacher for promotion.
A professor not having single consultancy project make mandatory a consultancy project in API.
Are we serious on syllabus revision?
Are we serious while giving load to junior.?
Are we serious in fixing increments for junior?
We feel only when we see our position globally.
Dr ashish agarwal

On May 2, 2015 9:59 AM, "Prof. Bholanath Dutta" <bnath.dutta@gmail.com> wrote:

Not a single Indian university has featured in the Times Higher Education (THE)'s ranking of the top 100 universities in the world that are less than 50 years old.

Close to 800 universities submitted their entries, including 20 from India. The rankings are specifically for young universities, where traditionally European and Asian universities have dominated the top slots. The 'top 100 under 50' rankings, which was first published in 2012, has only had one Indian university — IIT Guwahati — at number 87 in the 2013 list.

According to experts, the poor quality of research publications and lack of good faculty are the main reasons for the bad performance by Indian universities. "The higher education system in India has had to cope with huge increase in student numbers, which puts pressure on resources and quality. Also, a large number of Indian universities do not meet our criteria, including the minimum number of research papers to be published each year," said Phil Baty, rankings editor, THE.

SS Mantha, former chairman of the All India Council for Technical Education (AICTE) said, "Be it established universities like IITs, Mumbai or Delhi universities, we rarely see academic or industrial collaboration in its true sense. Moreover, faculty of international repute plays a large role in rankings, an area where newer universities lag behind."

While THE states lack of published research work is a factor in deciding ranks of Indian Universities, MS Annath, former director of IIT Madras differs.

"It is not the mere number of research papers that need to be a criteria but the kind of journals they are published in, the citations it has and its application in the industry. Interdisciplinary activities and collaborations are also crucial, "he said.

The top five universities in the 2014 list include Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne, Switzerland; Pohang University of Science and Technology and The Korea Advanced Institute of Science and Technology (KAIST) from South Korea; Hong Kong University of Science and Technology and Singapore's Nanyang Technological University.

Country's dismal show
IIT Guwahati was the only university that featured in the Times Higher Education's (THE) 'top 100 under 50' rankings - at No. 87 in the 2013 list

Why we lag behind?
According to experts, the poor quality of research publications and lack of good faculty are the main reasons for the bad performance by Indian universities

Phil Baty, rankings editor, THE, said Indian universities are not given the freedom to be responsive or manage their own affairs efficiently

SS Mantha, former chairman of the All India Council for Technical Education (AICTE), said lack of internationalisation in terms of students and faculty, along with poor industry linkages, has stalled the performances of Indian universities

To make the cut…
For the THE rankings, factors such as how much a university's research papers are being referenced by other academics, and income from industry and international collaborations are deciding factors

Failing to make a mark
Though Indian universities featured in another listing – the QS rankings - in April 2015, except for a few top IITs, others have performed dismally on other global parameters.

IIT Bombay and Delhi University featured in the list of top 100 technical institutions of the QS rankings but failed to make a mark in other subjects like medicines or law. According to research paper on pitfalls of Indian university rankings, only 3% of the universities have any sort of industrial collaboration.

 

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