RE: [MTC Global] No Indian university in Times Higher Education ‘top 100 under 50’ rankings

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Date: Sat, 2 May 2015 17:31:02 +0400
Subject: Re: [MTC Global] No Indian university in Times Higher Education 'top 100 under 50' rankings
From: sentindranil@gmail.com
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Dear Prof. Chandrasekhar,

Thanks for your input. We acknowledge that premier universities of the west are undoubtedly superior on most of the criteria. However, it is noteworthy that many Indian institutions command very high respect globally, though due to many manipulative reasons, their names never feature in the global list. In one of my previous  mails, I have mentioned few disciplines, on which Indians are known globally and India has real global expertise. Surprisingly, some of our own people, who do not know these things and not even have receptive minds, get the sadistic pleasure to demean everything Indian. We know and accept that in general Indian higher education systems need to improve and might be few decades behind top western education system, but we should not compare best of the world with small colleges located in rural and semi urban places in India. Many so called western Indians, take English writing skill as parameter to compare. Can all American graduates or Western graduates fluently write or speak other 4 major languages of the world like French, Russians, Chinese, Arabic etc. Comparison should be practical, rational and based on in-depth understanding. If required, I can specifically mention, names of some globally known Indian institutions, which are pioneer not only in Asia and there research profiles in respective areas are envied internationally. Being PhD of  different top universities from West does not ensure logical understanding. 

Hopefully, everything will be all right and our white skin admiration will be slowly replaced by sincere endeavours for research and contribution based education system, where nothing but only quality will be prioritised across the system. 

Thanks and regards,

Dr. Indranil Bose     

On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Natrajan Chandrasekhar <mithmerc@hotmail.com> wrote:
I agree with Dr Bose this being my 6th year with a German state Educational institution! We tend to berate ourselves. Perhaps why Indian institutions do wrong is carry too much of individual personality influence I.e.the Director or the Founder and in the process the institution " fades out".
N. Chandrasekhar
Germany

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Subject: RE: [MTC Global] No Indian university in Times Higher Education 'top 100 under 50' rankings

Dear Purnima,  
I am teaching with University of Wolverhampton,UK programme at UK and at Dubai.Hopefully, I have some better experience on that than you. We Indians, mainly in India has the tendency to accept blindly what whites say. Why don't we analyse, what is right or wrong in their observations.I have been the part of EQS  (Educational Quality Standard) process of UK government for last one year.I know some of the real facts and figures. Perhaps better than many people like you. Please try to understand that not all, but atleast 10/12 universertirlties or institutions from India deserved to be globally ranked in various disciplines including social work, agribusiness management,  vetenary science, statistics, historical research etc. I think, anybody from India, who has spent some times in their life abroad or somebody's family member stays abroad, unnecessarily humiliate Indian system, even good indian institutions from a sadistic pleasure mentality.We can learn from others. But, also should recognise good things of our country. Also should have real understanding based on participation in the international system. Thanks and regards, Dr.Indranil Bose

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Date:02/05/2015 1:08 PM (GMT+04:00)
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Dear Dr Bose,
It is v v important to accept the fact and analyze and rectify. It is such a typical Indian mentality  to cry victim. It is high time that we stop this habit and go ahead this is why America is always the winner. Because the concept is stop, realize that there has been mistake, learn from it and implement!!! Cheers!!!
Purnima 

Date: Sat, 2 May 2015 11:49:18 +0400
Subject: Re: [MTC Global] No Indian university in Times Higher Education 'top 100 under 50' rankings
From: sentindranil@gmail.com
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Dear all, 
I think another important factor plays important roles for the dismal performance of Indian universities or institutions. It might be also due to not allowing of Indian market to foreign universities and institutes on Indian soil. Till China opened its territory for setting up foreign university campuses, even same Chinese universities were not given good ranking by the rating agencies. I think some of the universities and institutions really deserve high ranking from India, but they have been made deprived only due to the some of sort of vindictive mentality of the rating agencies against the government policy of non allowing foreign universities on Indian soil. I am associated with British education system for almost last one and half years.I have seen even some good ranking universities of UK are nothing much superior in terms of curriculum or like that. We should not also be guided by western rankings, but should give honest effort to keep on setting higher benchmarks against world's best continuously. We will definitely get the result.                                                  Thanks and regards,                   Dr.Indranil Bose
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Dear sir
Why we expect more when we are doing less.
Are we promoting young teachers.
A professor not having any research paper make rule for indexed research paper for young teacher for promotion.
A professor not having single consultancy project make mandatory a consultancy project in API.
Are we serious on syllabus revision?
Are we serious while giving load to junior.?
Are we serious in fixing increments for junior?
We feel only when we see our position globally.
Dr ashish agarwal

On May 2, 2015 9:59 AM, "Prof. Bholanath Dutta" <bnath.dutta@gmail.com> wrote:

Not a single Indian university has featured in the Times Higher Education (THE)'s ranking of the top 100 universities in the world that are less than 50 years old.

Close to 800 universities submitted their entries, including 20 from India. The rankings are specifically for young universities, where traditionally European and Asian universities have dominated the top slots. The 'top 100 under 50' rankings, which was first published in 2012, has only had one Indian university — IIT Guwahati — at number 87 in the 2013 list.

According to experts, the poor quality of research publications and lack of good faculty are the main reasons for the bad performance by Indian universities. "The higher education system in India has had to cope with huge increase in student numbers, which puts pressure on resources and quality. Also, a large number of Indian universities do not meet our criteria, including the minimum number of research papers to be published each year," said Phil Baty, rankings editor, THE.

SS Mantha, former chairman of the All India Council for Technical Education (AICTE) said, "Be it established universities like IITs, Mumbai or Delhi universities, we rarely see academic or industrial collaboration in its true sense. Moreover, faculty of international repute plays a large role in rankings, an area where newer universities lag behind."

While THE states lack of published research work is a factor in deciding ranks of Indian Universities, MS Annath, former director of IIT Madras differs.

"It is not the mere number of research papers that need to be a criteria but the kind of journals they are published in, the citations it has and its application in the industry. Interdisciplinary activities and collaborations are also crucial, "he said.

The top five universities in the 2014 list include Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne, Switzerland; Pohang University of Science and Technology and The Korea Advanced Institute of Science and Technology (KAIST) from South Korea; Hong Kong University of Science and Technology and Singapore's Nanyang Technological University.

Country's dismal show
IIT Guwahati was the only university that featured in the Times Higher Education's (THE) 'top 100 under 50' rankings - at No. 87 in the 2013 list

Why we lag behind?
According to experts, the poor quality of research publications and lack of good faculty are the main reasons for the bad performance by Indian universities

Phil Baty, rankings editor, THE, said Indian universities are not given the freedom to be responsive or manage their own affairs efficiently

SS Mantha, former chairman of the All India Council for Technical Education (AICTE), said lack of internationalisation in terms of students and faculty, along with poor industry linkages, has stalled the performances of Indian universities

To make the cut…
For the THE rankings, factors such as how much a university's research papers are being referenced by other academics, and income from industry and international collaborations are deciding factors

Failing to make a mark
Though Indian universities featured in another listing – the QS rankings - in April 2015, except for a few top IITs, others have performed dismally on other global parameters.

IIT Bombay and Delhi University featured in the list of top 100 technical institutions of the QS rankings but failed to make a mark in other subjects like medicines or law. According to research paper on pitfalls of Indian university rankings, only 3% of the universities have any sort of industrial collaboration.


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