Sorry. I don't agree with the views of Mr Rakesh. Teachers are already out of money, not to speak of bonuses. There are still plenty of teachers who are teaching by choice not 'just' for earning money. Leaving aside the IIMs, XLRI and similar other top tier schools, how many private institutes encourage and support consultancy and research allowing time and resources. In most of the private B schools, the teachers have to slog for admission and placements ' looking at the students' . Before throwing a comment think a while with a feeling of empathy, salute them for the great job they have been doing.
Dr Biswas
Sent from my iPad--Teachers thought process has to change and get out of money and bonuses. Do consultancy, Research earn money rather than looking at students all the time. Money is function of luck. Let us not crib always about money.
Rakesh
From: join_mtc@googlegroups.com [mailto:join_mtc@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of supriya biswas
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Subject: RE: [MTC Global] Academic Integrity - a real concern
In good corporates, employees are given performance bonus. In colleges, such concepts are not applicable. When students bag job with CTC 4-5 times of their teachers' salary, the teachers feel delighted and buyoed by a sense of success. But it never occurs how come he would earn more than his teacher. I do not call it a sacrifice or greatness. Rather this is the plane where the teachers position themselves for self satisfaction. This plane does not exist in the corporates. I am with Ms Gowri's views that teachers job demand respect. Yes, I am one of those teachers not having a car.
When we talk about private business school, we are experiencing the gradual transformation of academic institutions into another business domain. It has to happen and I agree with Prof Dey - education is not free. Higher the fees, higher the expectations regarding the value added service of the teachers.
In fact, best of the breed institutes, like ISB, MDI, IIMs have very high tuition fees, at the same time they maintain quality intake. They have developed and implemented time tested business model to run the institution for sustainability and excellence. Well managed mid tier B Schools take time to establish their brand, it may even take more than a decade. In any case, they have to reduce or restrict the 'revenue generation temptation' to meet long term goal of achieving excellence, raise the institute's cultural bandwidth to accomodate the changing mindset of their students, embrace creative technology in order to pull the tech saavy students.
Certainly, the ones which are better managed, stand taller over the rest... sounds like Blue Ocean strategy where the best of the class dont have to fight for seat filling and placement.Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:38:17 +0530
Subject: [MTC Global] Academic Integrity - a real concern
From: usha.gowri@gmail.com
To: join_mtc@googlegroups.comI beg to differ that education is a social service and if it is so then all associated with it should work and study for free. Education is surely a business as it is in Healthcare and it should be managed like a good business to give its all stakeholders a good experience so that everything and everybody associated with education will flourish but unfortunately except the owners (trustees) all others keep on struggling. Since most private educational institutions are run like bad businesses the owners (trustees) also struggling to fill up the seats and busy in fire fighting.: Sudhi Ranjan Dey
absolutely right!
And when we say education is supreme no institution can give that you.An institution can give me knowledge and appear to say I competed and stand at the bottom of say 400 others.But real education begins when I apply all my learning to not just knowledge domains but the ethical,social cultural .....
And let me play the devils advocate: why should teachers alone be ethical or show integrity in an absolutely corrupt lawless society?
Do we believe we are role models whoa re being followed and learnt from?
does the teacher not pay the same price of 80 Rs for a kilo of vegetables that the society pays and the same fees and the same rent as others? do teachers don't have dreams? How stupidly idiotic that a teacher cant afford to travel or go for a higher education on sabbatical because the salary is important.How many teachers dow e know who never had a car in their lives because of being ethical . .And how much of ridicule does the society pile on them calling them losers.?
So will salaries high up in the sky help-no.What we need is what we think the corporate give-freedom;we need the society to give us respect for the job we do and for ourselves;
And ethics and integrity are personal choices-no one can dictate it to the other when they cant or dont have the guts to
dictate
it to the society ; and in a country like ours where the law is a donkey I am left wondering what we are creating these decibels for?
Gowri
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