Its really a confusing statement as in 2009 PhD directives no were it is mentioned that the supervisor and scholar should be from same university. UGC has given the power to universities to frame the policy as a matter of fact supervisor should be in payroll (regular)of any university and having a 5 research paper but after getting the letter chaos created amongst scholar what to do now.
I request you all learned academician to please throw some light in this issue.
My questions are as follows
1. Can any research scholar of private university choose a guide from other university , as all private university not have much PhD to guide.
2. What is the fate of scholars who are already registered and about to complete their work.
3. If the gazette notification 2009 says like Mr Sandhu elaborated than what will happen to those whom PhD already awarded.
Please guide in this regard.
Looks like the UGC while issuing guidelines has never taken into consideration the large scale vacancies exist invarious Universities across the country.It would be welcome ifd the UGC prevails upon state governments to fillthe vacancies.That would be perhaps the safest way to avoid outsourcing of Ph.D degree.The recent circular wouldcreate lot of chaos and confusion.There is a need for debate on this issue.A.K.Paricha.--On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Chiranjib Kumar Choudhary <chiranjib_kumar@hotmail.com> wrote:I do agree with it..I think research work in social science should be based on at least monthly grant/remuneration or allowances only to motivate both research scholars and their supervisory like pure science stream... a person doing research must come out with implementable framework or model for the benefit of society, nation and world.
Dr. Chiranjib kumar
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It's a open secret lot of people in fact get the phd work done through outsourcing by paying lakhs. Bad but truth. There is lot of fire and smoke. University should increase guide fees and research grant. It's like police taking bribe coz not enough salaries
Sent from my iPhone--Outsourcing of PhD guide is a very delicate issue. This decision may lead to many undesirable practices though in the beginning it may give rosy picture. The reasons are:
1. Research will be an out-house activity, but control with be in-house. I have come across some examples where the guide is outsourced, not approved by the university because outsourced guide was not a regular faculty on roll, but provided space to sit in the college, used to conduct some specialized programmes for students on payment basis, the guide was the college faculty (in-house) who simply used to sign the PhD certificate for approval of thesis. I know at least 4 PhDs in engineering turned out in this manner. I do know the outsourced guide is knowledgeable, but used as a tool by somebody.
2. Recently, I have come across a case, a senior faculty registered under PET 3 years ago, one guide from the parent university and other outsourced called co-guide. After 3 years, the outsourced guide is not willing to work as a guide bringing the scholar in tension.
3. Research in real sense is a strenuous work, guide has to exert extensively, e.g., my guide from IIT Kharagpur started assessing/editing my of PhD thesis in May 1984, and till the mid-Feb 1985 (the expiry of my deputation period) , my guide edited my work more than 10 times.
4. Research work entails meticulous literature survey, exhaustively working on the proposal of researcher that calls for continuous association with lab and/or library. I doubt to what extent this can be met by the outsourced guide, save a few exceptions
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5. Outsourcing is a normal trend in production and service sectors. Such an outsourced, like, House Keeping, Security, ancillary units, etc., is mostly dealing with normal/routine tasks. Outsourcing for PhD is for conceptual part of contribution. Moreover, once we get accustomed to outsourced PhDs, what contribution is expected from in-house research faculties? There is every possibility, after some passing some period, outsourcing will be a rule, in-house faculty working only as regulatory agency. I recall a case: a sweeper, cleaning the streets, getting around Rs 10000 pm pay appointed in a Municipal Corporation (1995) used to appoint another sweeperfor cleaning the streets in his place on payment of Rs. 4000 pm.
6. Let me quote another example, one so called a rare faculty in Management Sciences turned over 200 PhDs in Management, the faculty crossed 65 or so years of age already.
7. If we assure that, say, after 5 years the number of outsourced guides will be reduced to zero but complete onus will on in-house faculty holding them accountable, then perhaps outsourced guides may be a boon.
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Dear all,
The concern of govt and UGC for quality of research in universities is natural keeping the present status of research in view.However, the issue of outsourcing is a bit debatable. In pure science and social science subjects, local faculty may be adequate as research guide. But in Management Education, in addition to conceptual knowledge, practical exposure to the research subject is necessary condition to be an effective guide for quality research.
This incidentally is not necessarily available in-house in all the universities. Outside support as guide or co-guide is, therefore, a must. The issues of research in management discipline probably need to be dealt with separately.
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On 10 Jul 2015 16:41, Rajendra Deshpande <gandhianthought.cug@gmail.com> wrote:--
Dear All,--
The Move is ok and well accepted.But we all know in Management education the action happensoutside the academia unlike other faculties.To strengthen the Industry // academia interactionsinnovation and creativity it is necessary to involveoutsiders . Only then quality research will take place.
More than 70% of research today takes place today to fulfillAcademic criterion which may or may not add current pool of knowledge.How ill relevant research take place and resources devoted beutilized efficiently if we do not allow people who have immense expertiseand experience in Research?
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On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Prof. Bholanath Dutta <bnath.dutta@gmail.com> wrote:
--The University Grants Commission (UGC) has directed the Vice Chancellors of all universities across the country to ensure that the research supervisors for guiding MPhil/PhD students are allocated from amongst the regular faculty members at the university teaching department or its affiliated PG colleges/institutes.
"It has come to the notice of the UGC that some universities are hiring the services of the supervisors who do not happen to be regular teachers of those universities or their affiliated PG colleges/institutes for awarding MPhil/PhD degrees. This practice is in violation of the UGC (minimum standards and procedure for awarding MPhil/PhD) Regulations, 2009," maintains a UGC communiqué.
The communiqué, shot off on July 6 by Dr Jaspal S Sandhu, UGC Secretary, clarifies that any PhD/MPhil degree awarded by a university under the supervision of a supervisor who is not a faculty member of the university or its affiliated PG colleges/institutes would be in violation of the UGC Regulations. It warns the Vice Chancellors/officials concerned that any violation of the regulations would be dealt with seriously.
The step comes after a representation on the "outsourcing of PhDs" submitted to the UGC authorities by Prof SPS Dahiya, head of the department of English and foreign languages at MDU here. "I am grateful to the UGC authorities for issuing the clarification in the larger academic interest," said Prof Dahiya, who had also moved the Supreme Court regarding the matter.
Dr Raj Kumar, president of the Haryana Federation of University and College Teachers Organisations (HFUCTO), has also welcomed the UGC move.
Dr Raj Kumar had also submitted a representation to the UGC authorities in this regard in 2013, pointing out how many private universities across the country were flouting the UGC regulations by allowing a researcher to work for his PhD at any university/institute across the country under the guidance of teachers of other universities. In certain cases, the research supervisors were from outside the country, reportedTribune.
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