An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to his class on the problem science has with God, The Almighty.
He asks one of his new students to stand and......
Prof: So you believe in God?
Student: Absolutely, sir.
Prof : Is God good?
Student: Sure.
Prof: Is God all-powerful?
Student : Yes..
Prof: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to God to heal him.
Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But God didn't. How is this God good then? Hmm?
(Student is silent.)
Prof: You can't answer, can you? Let's start again, young fella. Is God good?
Student: Yes.
Prof: Is Satan good?
Student : No.
Prof: Where does Satan come from?
Student: From....God...
Prof: That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?
Student: Yes.
Prof: Evil is everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything. Correct?
Student: Yes.
Prof: So who created evil? (Student does not answer.)
Prof: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don't they?
Student: Yes, sir.
Prof: So, who created them? (Student has no answer.)
Prof: Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observe the world around you.
Tell me, son...Have you ever seen God?
Student: No, sir.
Prof: Tell us if you have ever heard your God?
Student: No, sir.
Prof: Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God, smelt your God? Have you ever had any sensory perception of God for that matter?
Student: No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.
Prof: Yet you still believe in Him?
Student: Yes.
Prof: According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your GOD doesn't exist.
What do you say to that, son?
Student: Nothing. I only have my faith.
Prof: Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has.
Student: Professor, is there such a thing as heat?
Prof: Yes.
Student: And is there such a thing as cold?
Prof: Yes.
Student: No sir. There isn't.
(The lecture theater becomes very quiet with this turn of events.)
Student : Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, super heat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat..
But we don't have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that.
There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat
. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it .
(There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theater.)
Student: What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?
Prof: Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness?
Student : You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright
light, flashing light.....But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? In
reality, darkness isn't. If it were you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you?
Prof: So what is the point you are making, young man?
Student: Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.
Prof: Flawed? Can you explain how?
Student: Sir, you are working on the premise of duality.. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought.. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one.To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is
not the opposite of life: just the absence of it.
Now tell me, Professor.Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?
Prof: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.
Student: Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?
(The Professor shakes his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument is going.)
Student: Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher? (The class is in uproar.)
Student: Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor's brain?
(The class breaks out into laughter.)
Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain,sir.
With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?
(The room is silent. The professor stares at the student, his face unfathomable.)
Prof: I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son.
Student: That is it sir... The link between man & god is FAITH . That is all that keeps things moving & alive.
NB: I believe you have enjoyed the conversation....and if so...you'll probably want your friends/colleagues to enjoy the same...won't you?....
this is a true story, and the
student was none other than .......
.. APJ Abdul Kalam, the former President of India.
enjoy & have Faith
The statements "There is also a problem with the word "Truth"! Like everything else this world, the "Truth" and myriads of its meanings are also a fabrication of human mind. Let us happily note that plants and animals who live on the same earth do not have to worry about the "Truth" or NETI, NETI" made by Dr.. Kuldeep are worth noting.
Plants and animals do not need to know the truth simply because they adhere to nature. Man by virtue of his intellect has created thousands of man-made systems, living far away from natural life as given to him. The intellect used by man is a nature's gift, How this intellect is then capable to know the creator, the nature? The very attempt to catch the "truth", therefore, remains futile as it cannot be caught in our man-made coding. Hence we coin such terms as "Truth", "NETI", "Shoonya", "Brahma", "God", etc. Can we codify exactly the concepts like infinity, gravity, soul, health, excellence, etc.? This is the limitation imposed by the nature only on man endowed with intellect.
Regards,
Dr. P H Waghodekar, PhD (Egg), IIT,KGP, IE&M, 1985,
Advisor (HR), IBS & PME (PG)
Marathwada Institute of Technology,
NH 211, Beed by pass road,
Aurangabad: 431010 (Maharashtra) INDIA.
(O) 02402375113 (M) 7276661925
E-Mail: waghodekar@rediffmail.com
Website: www.mit.asia
and
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From: Kuldeep Nagi
Sent: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 12:22:25
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Subject: Re: [MTC Global] But how much evidence is enough to act?
There is also a problem with the word "Truth"! Like everything else this world, the "Truth" and myriads of its meanings are also a fabrication of human mind. Let us happily note that plants and animals who live on the same earth do not have to worry about the "Truth" or NETI, NETI..
Kuldeep Nagi, PhD
Bangkok, Thailand
66-846374466
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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 09:37:11 +0000
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Subject: Re: [MTC Global] But how much evidence is enough to act?
From: waghodekar@rediffmail.com
Evidence is a man made provision to accept or reject something, mostly it is an object that can be seen or read, can be verified in the domain of science and law or logic.
Does soul exist? The answer is commonly yes, it does exist in living creatures. Does it the hand? the leg? nose? brain, etc. etc.? The ancient literature states "NETI" "NETI" : this is not! Do we not agree with this logic even in the absence of evidence?
It is true in-spite man's discoveries and inventions, man is far away from the "Truth"! Can the presence or absence of evidence in the worldly terms play a role in such cases?
Regards,
Dr. P H Waghodekar, PhD (Egg), IIT,KGP, IE&M, 1985,
Advisor (HR), IBS & PME (PG)
Marathwada Institute of Technology,
NH 211, Beed by pass road,
Aurangabad: 431010 (Maharashtra) INDIA.
(O) 02402375113 (M) 7276661925
E-Mail: waghodekar@rediffmail.com
Website: www.mit.asia
and
Chairman, Advisory Board, MTC Global, Bangalore.
Engineering & Management Education: An Engine of Prosperity.
Classroom teaching must match with Boardroom needs!
From: "Prof. Bholanath Dutta"
Sent: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 09:13:49
Subject: [MTC Global] But how much evidence is enough to act?"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence," Carl Sagan once said. It';s a good reminder that despite all we';ve discovered, invented and revealed, our world is still full of untold stories and immense mysteries.--EDUCATE, EMPOWER, ELEVATECell: +91 96323 18178 / +91 81520 60465 / +91 7411716392
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