The views and directions expressed by Prof. Kiran are really invaluable. The moment has come, if we do not act now, there is not even a ray hope for future.
Let me remind here, however, that Democracy is not a very new concept. In India till today we are having Panchayat, earlier we had "Jana Tantra" or "Lok Tantra". MacAulay has reported in mid-18th Century that such a system in India is the the back bone of Indian villages making them economically independent.The present concept of democracy is an improved version of "Lok Tantra" that is adopted by the Capitalist countries because of obvious reasons. Of course, Socialism or Communism have been found to be equally effective as that of Capitalism. The core is the motive behind. For example, the advanced countries, may be communist or Capitalist, are their people welfare centred. In some countries like India, Democracy is stretched far to such an extent under the name of freedom of expression, property purchase, jobs, secularism, etc. that the main objectives is kept aside.
Education, skills development, etc. are only the tools, that can be developed if motive is people's welfare and good governance.
Regards,
Dr. P H Waghodekar, PhD (Egg), IIT,KGP, IE&M, 1985,
Advisor (HR), IBS & PME (PG)
Marathwada Institute of Technology,
NH 211, Beed by pass road,
Aurangabad: 431010 (Maharashtra) INDIA.
(O) 02402375113 (M) 7276661925
E-Mail: waghodekar@rediffmail.com
Website: www.mit.asia
and
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Engineering & Management Education: An Engine of Prosperity.
Classroom teaching must match with Boardroom needs!
From: "kiran paranjpe"
Sent: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 20:15:20
To:
Subject: Re: [MTC Global] Amartya Sen: India can't become a global economicpower with an uneducated, unhealthy workforce
Dear Sir, I don't think India can become an emerging superpower in the near
future. For this to happen, we need to have friendly and supportive
neighbors. We should be able to prevail against the fissures created by the
competing powers to keep us locked into local disputes with our neighbors.
We have to resolve our border disputes and take on the responsibility of the
whole South Asian subcontinent and not just our own country. To my mind this
is a difficult agenda considering the visceral hatred being nurtured in the
neighboring people for this country.
I don't think that education alone guarantees growth of employment. We may
have very talented and educated engineers in our midst but if the country
cannot create opportunities to harness that talent then we as a nation will
end up squandering the so called demographic dividend.
Today, our Govt is making a serious effort to pursue such goals such as Make
in India, Infrastructure enhancement, Land acquisition for building cities
and energy self sufficiency through harnessing solar power. All this effort
will be in vain if the capitalist spirit in the people is not strengthened.
The noted writer Gurcharan Das has mentioned that in the Western Countries
capitalism developed first and this led to the growth of democracy as the
best environment for capitalism to thrive.
In India, we implemented democracy providing every citizen with rights but
we smothered the capitalist spirit by creating inefficient state owned
enterprises. This had the effect of looking to the Govt for solving our
internal problems. We have expanded our bureaucracy and made the job of a
Govt peon more desirable than a factory worker. The people have been fed
with an illusion that Govt alone can solve the myriad problems this has been
made possible with a plethora of regulations and rules for doing the
smallest business. Our political class also encourages this illusion by
promising doles. Is it any wonder that we rank very low in ease of doing
business compared with much smaller countries.
The problems of economic recovery are convoluted but merely creating
educated graduates unfit for employment will only fuel social discontent and
strife.
Best Regards,
K.Paranjpe
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 13:06:05 +0530 Indranil Bose <sentindranil@gmail.com>
wrote
>The views on India's potentiality to become a sustainable global power will
be in question definitely, if the issues raised by Dr. Sen in his interview.
However, mass scale of vocational education leading to enhanced
employability of our present and future work-force and mass health care
programmes can improve the situation.
India can do magic through social entrepreneurship and government can
encourage growth through priority industrial sectors identified and
strategised.
Hopefully, the situation will keep on improving and our dream of becoming
world leader will be realised soon.We have attained a lot and will also
achieve more.
Dr. Indranil
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In 17th Century when we had 27% share of world trade, how much workforce was
educated how many people knew any foreign language if that is the criteria
of Dr. Amartya Sen. If we look at the shop floor of our manufacturing units,
our uneducated workers know more that our engineers. In textile industry,
there is a very interesting practice to which I have been witness for many
years; whenever a new technical boss arrives at the shop floor, the worker
creates some kind of glitch in the machine and surrenders that he doesn't
know what and how things have gone wrong and how to set it right. The action
and achievement of the said engineer at this point decides how much respect,
obedience and co-operation he is going to get from the
workers.RegardsVirendra Goel From: join_mtc@googlegroups.com
[mailto:join_mtc@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Prabhakar Waghodekar
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 12:59 AM
To: join_mtc@googlegroups.com
Cc: Rajendra Deshpande
Subject: Re: [MTC Global] Amartya Sen: India can't become a global economic
power with an uneducated, unhealthy workforce Dear All,
In the 17th Century India had international market share about 27% (when
Adam Smith (1723-90) and Thomas Macaulay (1800-59) were just emerging),
whole Europe and US combined was 21%, in 1947 we had roughly 2% and today
after 68 years of independence it is hardly 1%.
What are the reasons? We have isolated knowledge, attitude and skills. There
is nothing surprising that advanced countries make us to dream as emerging
super economic power, the youngest country, demographic advantage, etc.,
naturally with hidden agenda. When our Kings of Princely States used to
visit UK, British workers used to be damn happy because the King used to
give them a tip of several pounds! Agarkar was pleading social revolution
first and then country's freedom. Sister Nivedita has written a century ago
that Indian parents mind-set is: the only objective of education is earning
more money.
Instead of focusing on mass-education or literacy and agricultural sector we
embraced something different. Our elite class is happy to get good education
and jobs in foreign countries, on the plea that India is unable to provide
us the conducive climate. Is it a real path to make India a global country?
Whom we are serving? Under such circumstances no party can turn up side
down, even after a decade.
A heavy stroke/impact cannot be generated by a soft hand!
Regards,
Dr. P H Waghodekar, PhD (Egg), IIT,KGP, IE&M, 1985,
Advisor (HR), IBS & PME (PG)
Marathwada Institute of Technology,
NH 211, Beed by pass road,
Aurangabad: 431010 (Maharashtra) INDIA.
(O) 02402375113 (M) 7276661925
E-Mail: waghodekar@rediffmail.com
Website: www.mit.asia
and
Chairman, Advisory Board, MTC Global, Bangalore.
Engineering & Management Education: An Engine of Prosperity.
Classroom teaching must match with Boardroom needs!
From: Rajendra Deshpande <gandhianthought.cug@gmail.com>
Sent: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 17:46:15
To: join_mtc@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [MTC Global] Amartya Sen: India can't become a global economic
power with an uneducated, unhealthy workforceVery true.Lot of hype is being
created about India being super power.We need to address to the fundamentals
first. 1. All experts claim about demographic advantage of India that60 % of
our population is young .But what is its quality? what is its
Productivity? 2. Our exports are declining even at previous levels our share
in International Tradeis not even 1 % 3. Our share in world tourism as well
is also much below 1% These two factors are the main and important
determinants of any nationlooking for high growth . The competitiveness of
any nation depends onits exports and its share in International trade and
Share in Tourism.Why Tourism ? Because tourism is always at the apex of
Industrial growthand capability Indicator . Normally When tourism is good
all other things in a countryon other indicators are taken care off
automatically .Good tourism share is indicator of Good
infrastructure,Facilities,Hospitality ,Overall economy,Capability and
efficiency of people.Tourism is soft and invisible industry /Business.
Requires lot many factorsfor success.tourism alone can employ millions of
youth in this nation. Thanks for raising this topic. Rajendra
Deshpande. . On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 5:15 PM, Prof. Bholanath Dutta
Amartya Sen visited the London School of Economics (LSE) to discuss his new
collection of cultural essays,Country of First Boys. Before taking the stage
in the packed Old Theatre, Sen spoke to Sonali Campion and Taryana Udayar of
the South Asia @ LSE blog about the Indian government's approach to
development, Kerala as a model for universal education and healthcare in
India, and his faith in democracy.Q: You have said that looking at the end
point of a debate is not an ideal way of understanding the wider discussion.
This seems relevant in relation to economic policy today, where developing
countries aspire to high and continuous growth. What's your view on the
current Indian government's manner of pursuing growth?Sen:Let me make a
clarification first. The point about the end point not being the only issue
asks what were the counter arguments that were considered? What were the
different points of view that may or may not have been aired, even if the
end point is correct? That only becomes relevant when you agree with the end
point. In the case of the policy as it stands now, that is not the case. I
think the end point is wrong. The argumentation process is wrong as well,
but there are two distinct issues here.India is the only country in the
world which is trying to become a global economic power with an uneducated
and unhealthy labour force. It's never been done before, and never will be
done in the future either. There is a reason why Europe went for universal
education, and so did America. Japan, after the Meiji restoration in 1868,
wanted to get fully literate in 40 years and they did. So did South Korea
after the war, and Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore and China.The whole idea
that you could somehow separate out the process of economic growth from the
quality of the labour force is a mistake against which Adam Smith warned in
1776. It's an ancient danger, and he might have been right to think that the
British government at the time did not pay sufficient interest in basic
education for all. Unfortunately, that applies today to the government of
India as well. It doesn't acknowledge the relevance of the quality of human
labour.That is the foundation of their mistake, their conclusions,
therefore, are wrong. For example, they are trying to go suddenly for
everything to be done by cash, which is meant to be an experiment. In one of
his first interviews after winning the Nobel Prize this year, Angus Deaton
said this is purely an experiment, but it's an experiment with the lives of
the poor.And I'm afraid I agree with him, and his scepticism towards it.
There was a reason why someone as intensely keen on the market economy as
Adam Smith thought the government has to make the country fully literate,
this is something the government can do. America is meant to be very anti-
government, but every American has a right to primary school education paid
for by the government, you're picked up from your home by government buses,
delivered to your state school and educated there.India is trying to be
different from America, Europe, Japan, Korea, Hong Kong, Singapore, Taiwan,
China—all of them. This is not a good way of thinking of economics. So
foundationally, the government's understanding of development underlying
their approach is mistaken. Having said that, the previous government was
terribly mistaken, too. But one hoped there might be a change, and there has
been, but not for the better. All the sins of the past government have been
added up.[Source: Quartz India]Best Regards,Educate, Empower, ElevateProf.
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