Dear Waghodekarji,
Devotion, or Bhakti does not necessarily turn a man into value oriented. There are two meanings (one is subtle-Dhvani) here. one kind of devotion is similar to a passion and makes the person excel in his work/skills.
Mahabharatha's Karna and Ramayana's Indrajit comes under this category. But they lacked values.
Current: Maria Sherapova comes under this category? (apologies, Not judgmental) and many more sportspeople.
The second one is devotion( Bhakti)- it is more or less spiritual. A person having higher in Bhakti state may have other values also, which enhances his spiritual feeling and living. Bhakti can also be a value? or You can't have Bhakti unless you have those values? But still it can be separated.
Both Ravana and Bali (Prahlada's grandson) comes under this second category.
Regarding Padma awards: How come Bollywood celebrities and sports people are getting it? Some may deserve, but many are not.
All values are consciously chosen and learned behaviour, there is nothing automatic (but the research in evolutionary psycho-biology says that it is part of the genes- species survival -typical behaviour!).
Regards,
Prof. Vijendra Kumar SK.
Assistant Professor and Counseling Psychologist,
Centre for Counseling and Career Guidance,
PES University, Bangalore.
On Wednesday, June 1, 2016 11:18 PM, Prabhakar Waghodekar <waghodekar@rediffmail.com> wrote:
Well said Prof. Goelji.
Will not "Bhakti" (devotion) to the profession generate values automatically?
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--Dear All,Are we practicing values? who practices? We hear that Padma awards are also sold!There are scams, where their self interest is more than national interest.Cricketers play well in IPL than world cups!Practicing values are not rewarded in India. People with political influence, money will gain the lime light.Change can happen through academics and media (if they have the will). A teacher can teach values.Parent-teacher meeting can focus on values instead of marks.Ethical case studies can be discussed.An organisation's success can be evaluated through employees citizenship behaviour rather than balance sheet and share value.Every media can focus on ethical advertisement.We need to believe that all values are learned behaviours. It can be learned at any stage by anybody.Regards,Prof. Vijendra Kumar SKAssistant Professor and Counseling Psychologist,Centre for Counseling and Career Guidance,PES University,Bangalore.On Tuesday, May 31, 2016 7:35 AM, "'K.R Subramanian' via Management Teachers Consortium, Global" <join_mtc@googlegroups.com> wrote:
The Question is How to rectify?Prof.K.R.SubramanianOn Tuesday, May 31, 2016 5:45 AM, Kamatchi P <kamatchi.p@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear all
I do agree the present generations loosing the values. This can be blamed the present system,family ,Institutions and the older generation. The elders are not showing their interest in rectifing the mistake and try to connect through life experience and setting A
Model on humanity . Moral education is
Vanished. Morality ,ethics are fading away.We need to build a new society.
Dr.Kamakshi p
pofessor and Consultant
--On 30-May-2016 9:36 pm, "'JAYASRI INDIRAN' via Management Teachers Consortium, Global" <join_mtc@googlegroups.com" target='_blank' rel=external>join_mtc@googlegroups.com> wrote:--Basic lack of moral values, especially in respecting self and elders, respecting education, valuing 'goodness', acknowledging service, valuing mutual respect, value for money, value for time, value for integrity and value for sincerity are the reasons, i believe.Today, we had to visit a private bank for opening an account (please dont ask if we need to visit physically for opening an account, that is another tragic story.). Its actually for collecting cheque book and passbook from the bank. The application for opening an account was given 20 days back. Now, the scenario is we were asked to sit in front of the marketing executive and deal with him for further collecting our docs. First when one of my friend was asked to sign on the delivery register, she signed and waited for him to hand the docs over to her. She was waiting for the executive to attend to her. He, the so-called young marketing executive seems to be in his 3rd or 4th year of service, he just threw things like passbook and cheque book towards our direction though the distance between him and us was just a table breadth. Then, i was observing if he can behave little proper to others, at least to his own colleagues. No, in a matter of 20 minutes time, i could see him behaving in such rude way, to whoever comes across his way for any transaction. This is a small example for what we are talking about basic trust and character.What is wrong in him? Whether his own personality? If its so the reason is his culture or the environment? These questions arise for whatever we could see in our students as non-obedient, not being trustworthy, not giving respect to teachers, not giving value for his own promises, not being committed to what he is into, not taking things with sincerity. all these are the effects of out own style of bringing our children up. We lost the values of joint family in which we need to exercise all theses as routine and they are part and parcel of our life. If not, at least schools had moral education sessions which is now a name sake show in which nothing fruitfully happening. This is what i believe.Regards,DR. JAYASRI INDIRANAssistant Professor-HRRajagiri Centre for Business StudiesRajagiri Valley PostKakkanadCochin-682039Mob.: +91-8129650401Email: jayasri@rajagiri.edu');" >jayasri@rajagiri.eduWe should not waste out time and energy in justifying ourselves to those who are committed to mistake us...!!!On Monday, 30 May 2016 4:07 PM, "'Vijendra Kumar' via Management Teachers Consortium, Global" <join_mtc@googlegroups.com" target='_blank' rel=external>join_mtc@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Dear All,whenever there is an opportunity to become unaccountable, the values, which fosters humanity gets diluted and changes. From this point, it becomes clear that the number of students enrollment increases, the tendency to cheat also increases, if they are not accountable.If we take Gurukul example, few teachers and students were there in a system. Each knows others well and used to inculcate values as required and they used to get motivated because these were rewarded then and there (as well as later). But same thing will not happen in a highly competitive world of 21st century. here resources are scarce, but competition is more. So people try different ways.The other perspective is that the judgment like this can be due to our biased social cognition (representativeness heuristics?). We need to remember that this kind of betraying the trust was there in Mahabharatha also (Karna was the example; he might have had 100 reasons, justifiable).Regards,Prof. Vijendra Kumar SKAssistant Professor & Counseling Psychologist,Centre for Counseling and Career Guidance,PES University,Bangalore.On Monday, May 23, 2016 3:36 PM, Kuldeep Nagi <kuldeepn@hotmail.com" target='_blank' rel=external>kuldeepn@hotmail.com> wrote:
In this new century we are gradually sliding into a "culture of distrust." Distrust usually leads to dishonesty. Most universities do not treat its students as stake holders in the teaching learning processes. Acquiring a degree has become important than learning for enhancing one's potential and building character. Students are just interested in getting grades and getting ahead by hook-or-crook. In addition, HE is also crippled by introduction of dirty politics into the campuses. Corrupt politicians are partly to blame for the degradation of HE. In some ways, HE reflects the nature and values of Indian society.Kuldeep Nagi, PhD
Bangkok, Thailand
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