RE: [MTC Global] ~ * MBA Is Getting Out Dated ? ~ For information.

Dear professors,

 

As far as I am concerned, education system of India and specifically MBA is not getting outdated because of curriculum and syllabus but because of lack of commitment of students and teachers to enhance the  Skills, Knowledge and Ability of students.

 

Though students read many subjects and clear exams, gets first class and even distinctions, but after the completion of the course they can't even remember all subjects they had studied in MBA.

 

Being a teacher, I would like to ask few simple questions to all and including myself:

 

Do we read the whole text book and all books recommended for subjects and teach?

 

Do we find (ALL) teachers interested both in developing skills of students together with their subject knowledge?

 

Do all teachers committed to train students for jobs ?

 

Do the education sector values corporate experience of a teacher more than or equal to teaching?

 

How many of us can make students competitive enough to make them employed soon after MBA?

 

Why do we rely on placement cell for placing our students when we can place them and if not we can train them to find the suitable job?

 

Actually students take professional courses mainly for career growth and career in corporate demands multitasking skills.

 

We get students for MBA who do not know how to speak in English. Many students write with lot of grammatical and spelling errors, it is because we do not have an oral interview kind of exam for clearing MBA and we do not valuate papers considering Grammar and spelling errors of students.

 

There is a GAP between what we teach and what market needs !

 

I am not blaming on anybody personally and I am also the part of the same system.

 

Still there are many wonderful teachers doing wonders, who transform students from nothing to something and from something to almost everything, I love and respect them for their passion and integrity towards the progress of students and hope we all join hands with them or at least we cooperate with them.

 

 

Thanks and regards,

Syed Ameen Ahmed
Asst Professor - MBA
AITM - Bhatkal
Karnataka
Mob: +91 9886365099/9108639470
Email: syedameen2364@gmail.com

Website: www.aitmb.ac.in

 

 

 

 

 

From: 'Grajkhowa' via Management Teachers Consortium, Global [mailto:join_mtc@googlegroups.com]
Sent: 31 July 2016 09:13
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Subject: Re: [MTC Global] ~ * MBA Is Getting Out Dated ? ~ For information.

 

Finally it boils down  to content  and the experience that the  programme offers to the participants ..  That's what makes one programme different from the other ...

 



Gautam  Rajkhowa 

email  : grajkhowa@aol.com

 

Apologies for the brevity of message ; sent on the move

 


On 30 Jul 2016, at 21:28, Viraj Atre. <atre.viraj@gmail.com> wrote:

No qualifications and/or certifications ever get out of date. Syllabus can get outdated. Qualifications just cannot.

We had been blessed to take lectures from the best professors from IIT CHENNAI & IIM's all over india while we did our six sigma black belt. In fact the best professors and students came from Nissan, Renault, Mitsubishi, Toyota, Honda.. To name a few.

I totally disagree that MBA is becoming outdated. Applications orientation is absent. Skill gap analysis is absent. The best people like LFM (Leaders for Manufacturing) are still trained by Harward and Massachusetts.

Sorry for my frank opinions. But no educational qualification ever get outdated.

Viraj Atre.

 

On 30-Jul-2016 11:26 PM, "prithvishankar" <psray61@hotmail.com> wrote:

Rightly said by Prof. Vemuganti; the faculty will have to struggle, learn with a correct sense of direction, upgrade themselves with practical industry insights ( either through primary means or secondary means), re-orient and re-position themselves in these turbulent times, as corporate also struggle to re-position their product with improved features through product development, to extend the product life cycle and sustain competition in the market!

 

regards,

 

P.S.Raychaudhuri

New Delhi

 

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From: join_mtc@googlegroups.com <join_mtc@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Ramesh Vemuganti <vemugantiramesh@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 12:52 PM
To: 'K. Sampath Kumar' via Management Teachers Consortium, Global
Subject: Fwd: [MTC Global] ~ * MBA Is Getting Out Dated ? ~ For information.

 

30th July, 2016

 

There is a vast demand for future managers in a growing economy like India & several fast growing nations in various sectors. 

 

It is all about one word - " quality " - & most important aspect is the MBA/ PGDM  has to be done by interested & industrious students only. Not by all & sundry who are prepared to join as police constables, clerks, assistants, BPO executives & others  

 

So, our MBA/PGDM course has become a passport to make money for the owners & obtain a certificate for a students to take up any job; 

 

How many students who complete an MBA/ PGDM course can explain what Management is all about in 5 minutes? 

 

As a vociferourous & ardent proponent of Management profession & its diffusion per se, I feel concerned even bureaucrats run massive organisations in Govt without the knowledge of Management. 

 

Result is a mushroom growth of the colleges & universities offering it.  No wonder the correction mechanism has started happening in the market.

 

The top 200 institutions, colleges & university run MBA/ PGDM programs will go on. The rest will have to decent standards &  quality incorporating all the aspects mentioned in previous mails 

Or else, they will be forced to shut down. The youngen market of 2016 is ruthless, unlike the 70"s & 80"s, which was more tolerant.

 

The big challenge is for the faculty to reposition themselves in changing times. Myself along with some senior professionals are advising & guiding many faculty to change & adapt for a career reorientation.

 

regards

 

Ramesh Vemuganti



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From: Usha Gowri <usha.gowri@gmail.com>

Subject: Re: [MTC Global] Fwd: ~ * MBA Is Getting Out Dated ? ~ For information.

Date: 29 July 2016 at 8:44:16 PM IST

 

As long as an MBA course is' taught' it's going no where.

Usha Gowri

On Jul 29, 2016 8:30 AM, "Rajendra Deshpande" <gandhianthought.cug@gmail.com> wrote:

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On hire: MBA graduates for Rs 10,000 per month

By

Yogesh Avasthi

, Ahmedabad Mirror|

Jul 27, 2016, 10.09 AM IST

 

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"There are no takers for MBA, it seems. Had I known the job scene would be so disappointing, I would have pursued BCom," said an applicant.

Master of Business Administration, which used to be a status symbol only two decades ago, has reduced itself to a 

poor man's degree if the salaries offered to fresh MBA grads at GTU are anything to go by. While around 62% MBA seats are vacant this year, employers are hiring MBA grads for as less as Rs 10,000 to Rs 15,000 and the varsities are not even letting out a whimper. Gujarat Technological University conducted a three-day placement for a finance company which made it clear beforehand that it would offer not more than Rs 1.44 lakh to Rs 1.80 lakh per annum to students from Ahmedabad, Rajkot, Vadodara and Surat. Rural students would be hired for Rs 1.20 lakh to Rs 1.44 lakh per annum by the company, according to the information put up on GTU website by the varsity's Integrated Training and Placement Cell (ITAP).

Around 300 students had participated in the recruitment interviews conducted by this company, according to GTU officials. These are the students who have paid between Rs 55,000 to Rs 1lakh to pursue the course. A student who participated in the placements that concluded on Tuesday said on condition of anonymity, "We passed out in April and have not been able to find a job yet. There are no takers for MBA, it seems. Had I known the job scene would be so disappointing, I would have pursued BCom. I frankly do not mind a salary of Rs 10,000 per month.

Something is better than nothing." ITAP Head Apurv Raval said, "In the threeday placement, 300 MBA graduates from across the state had participated. Around 30 were shortlisted. We make best efforts to ensure that the graduates get maximum salaries. However, in several cases the initial salary is less. Recently, Axis Security was on campus for placements and offered an annual package of Rs 1.50 lakh while engineers were offered Rs 3.6 lakh per annum by Wipro." However, Gujarat University Vice Chancellor M N Patel, is of the opinion that the varsity should put its foot down and fight for its students.

"There are 100 applicants for one job these days. Two to three years ago, the recruiting companies offered attractive packages, but now that is not the case. That said, GTU should learn to negotiate with the companies and get the best packages for its students rather than letting them down." He added, "Once you allow a company to pick your student for as less as Rs 1.80 lakh, then the next company would offer even less." Janak Khandwala, president, Association of SFI Professional Institutes said, "As far as MBA is concerned, GTU has not even designed the course properly.

It should ideally be case-study based and there should be more field work. Students who pursue the course should be able to meet the requirements of the industry. Besides, nowadays there is a huge demand-supply gap and that has led to the drop in salary packages." Not just MBA, even MCA (Master of Computer Application) has around 80 per cent seats vacant. In precise numbers, it means out of total 21,260 MBA, MCA and MCA (lateral) seats, only 4,389 have been filled while 16,871 are still vacant.

Admission Committee for Professional Courses (ACPC) has added that the number of vacant seats could be even higher as many candidates who have secured admission to MBA may opt for other courses. An ACPC official said, "There were totally 21,260 seats in MBA, MCA and MCA Lateral. Out of them, 16,871 are still vacant. In MBA course, 2,408 seats have been filled while 6,211are vacant; in MCA, only 538 seats have been filled while 4,521are vacant; and in MCA (lateral), 6,139 seats are vacant and only 1,443 seats are filled in." ACPC Member Secretary G P Vadodaria said, "The first round of seat allotment was done on Tuesday. Around 80 per cent seats are vacant in MBA, MCA and MCA (Lateral) courses. More seats could fall vacant in the coming days."

IMPORTANT DATES: MBA/MCA

July 26 to July 29 - Deposition of tuition fees in bank and online generation of admission slip July 27 to July 30 - Online cancellation of admission July 27 to July 30 - Consent of reshuffling, filling and alteration of choices (if any) in Round 2 August 4 - Commencement of academic term



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   Center for Gandhian Thought & Peace Studies.

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