Re: SUGGESTED GROUP TO TALK ON BEHALF OF THE SOUTHERN CAMEROONS(AMBAZONIA)

My advice is that the members  of the delegation upon arrival in Yaounde, should first of all meet and concert (iron out positions) and know who should speak first - Mola Njoh Litumbe is very artful at this.

They can even as for the meeting time to be pushed forward so that they concert. Remember theTripartite talks and the egregious machevellianism at play then.

These are trying times as Thomas Paine did write

Agien Nyangkwe

On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 10:30 AM, 'Chief Charles A.Taku' via ambasbay <ambasbay@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Victor,
 You are correct. There are serious supervening events which have occured which must be comprehensively dealt with before an substantive talks can occur.
The impunity, brutality and threats made against Southern Cameroons and Southern Cameroonians by members of the government of La Republique du Cameroun must be addressed. These threats and pattern of acts of bestiality and criminality predate the ongoing escalation.  Atanga Nji who is Minister of Special Mission in the President's cabinet and secretary of his security council overseeing the formulation and implementation of these crimes spoke publicly yesterday. His outing is significant in many ways. In many countries, persons holding such positions hardly make public statements. He spoke for the government, make no mistake. He voiced in public and took credit on behalf of the government and the institution he represents by his statements. He statements are a historical record which supports our cause and the complaints about institutionalied impunty and criminality against the Southern Cameroons  that we have been making for over half a century now. Laurent Esso and Fame Ndongo also made media statements supporting   the systemic policy of cultural genocide to which we have been subjected for over half a century. So therefore, this cause and the cause of our revolt is not about pecuniary misadventures. If that were so, then those who accepted "petrol money" will be proved right in the circumstances. It is about a systemic policy of cultural genocide, a  policy of widespread and systemic crimes against humanity which Paul Atanga admitted yesterday in his telivised interview. Ofcourse, others before him including late Andre Fouda and the Mfoundi elites publicly restated this policy.
 So therefore, if we do not place this matter top on the agenda, as Paul Atanga's confessions have moved them to the fore this meeting will be relied on to persecute and entrench the very violations that have unsettled our consciences and that of humanity. The world is watching. Do not squander this opportunity.
 Chief Charles A.Taku

V From: Victor Epiengome <vjepiengome@gmail.com>
To: "ambasbay@googlegroups.com" <ambasbay@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: SUGGESTED GROUP TO TALK ON BEHALF OF THE SOUTHERN CAMEROONS(AMBAZONIA)

Today's meeting is the system's usual ambush tactics. As you can see they make a surprise announcement so that we start wondering who to go and what to say.
All these people we are proposing will not have been informed and prepared. They will not have had time to harmonise their position. So we'll go to the meeting and be at each other's throat again, and they will have a good laugh at our childishness. Some fool in all his ineptitude will call us "apprenti sorciers"
I suggest that today's should be talks about talks. that means it should only lay the groundwork and set a mutually acceptable date and venue for a proper meeting.
Once that is done, we should work feverishly to harmonise our objectives and present a platform of things achievable.
Viictor Epie'Ngome

On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Njousi Abang <njousid@gmail.com> wrote:
Comrades,
Thanks for the updated lists of representatives. Be it known that we are a people with wisdom. We have not lost our senses. We have not lost sight of the various things and pacific steps which we have taken to resolve this constitutional dilemma. We have reached a stage in our struggle in which any talks with the authorities in Yaounde without a third party is considered anti people. We cannot make the same mistakes for which we blame our forefathers. We cannot afford to compromise and take evil as a normal way of doing business since we stand to benefit in the short run. We need sustainable talks that will end the turmoil and guarantee our prosperity and rights as a people. We cannot wait for 2035, a decadent regime and a pathological liar to shape our destiny. Which commission or talks in this triangle has ever yielded fruits? Is it after the talks that Yaounde will begin to see us as equals and human beings? Any credible talks will be allowable if there is a neutral third party to moderate the talks like the AU/UN or Britain. If we treat this with disdain, only one Southern Cameroonian will be capable of standing up against such shabby treatment and disband any temporary arrangements reached in this lame and ephemeral talks. We cannot sweep all the crimes under the carpet because we are anxious for talks with the murderer of our forefathers and the destroyer of our heritage. If they are interested in talks, let them kill more of our people so that we can wrap our tails like captives or dogs in-between our legs and crawl to Yaounde for talks. Some of us have lost touch with reality, legality and values to the extent that we can step over the corpses of our relations to go and dine with the murderer of our kinsmen. One day the skies will open and we will account for the way we conduct our affairs and treat our people.

On 24 November 2016 at 23:00, Valentine Nke <valienke@gmail.com> wrote:
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I buy your idea Kingsly. Religious leaders must be included. Christian Cardinal Tumi, Bishops of the Bamenda Ecclesiastical Province, the Moderator Presbyterian Church in Cameroon, The General Secretary of the Cameroon Baptist Convention, the Head of Islamic Church in the North west and Southwest Provinces.

On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Kingsley Fomunyuy Njoka <njokings02@gmail.com> wrote:
In my humble opinion, some religious leaders should be included. Like In the talks with the Prime Minister today In Bamenda we look forward to have our Religious leaders, after all they are key actors in the education sector. 
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On 25 Nov 2016 7:18 am, Julius Acham <achamj07@gmail.com> wrote:
Any group of people for the Government to talk with must designated by those complaining (Teachers Union, Common Law Layers, Civil Society People). My suggestion is:
  1.  Secretary General President Teachers Union 
  2. President of Southern Cameroons Common Law Lawyers 
  3. HRH Fon Gorji Dinka
  4. Hon. Mola Litumbe
  5. Barrister Chief Charles Taku
  6. Dr. Cho Ayaba
  7. Dr. Ebenezar Akwanga
  8. Dr. Nfor Ngalla Nfor
  9. Prof Carlson Anyangwe
  10. Hon Ayah Paul
Let us project this group, so that it goes on our records that we presented a group to talk with. This gives us credit for being constructive.Any other persons or group engaging in any talks is null and Void.
JA
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