Re: Caution: SCNC Chair and Susungi

I am shifting a topics. We need the SECOND Amendment in Cameroon. If both Francophone soldiers and Anglophone citizens had guns, it will be a matter of self defense. We will not have sat and see the students being killed. Buy your guns for self defense against Cameroon brutality soldiers.  Not inciting violence but self defense. Strong leadersip collision is needed. Talk is cheap but the work must be done on the ground until accomplished. Not later but now. No more blowing hot air. 
How can we help? "United We Stand, Divided We Fall.

"None of us is as smart as all of us."

What is the po tentiall of collective brainpower? Building a Committed and collaborative environment and up the game as leaders. There is strength in numbers.
As we navigate this difficult time at home and coming to the end of the year, let's remember that we can overcome any challenges by tapping into our collective brainpower and working together as a team.

Thank you all.

Agnes E. Besong

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From: 'Prof. Martin Ayim' via ambasbay
Date: Sun, Dec 4, 2016 8:44 PM
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Subject:Re: Caution: SCNC Chair and Susungi

Thank you Alex. Thank you Acham. Thank you Mola. Leadership is needed. Nobody has any right to question anyone's right to fight for the same goal.It is all about patriotism.


On Sunday, December 4, 2016 6:21 PM, "Julius Acham achamj07@gmail.com [Ambazonianationalgroup]" > wrote:


 
Great points Alex. All these registrations cited by MAN do not represent the one key DOCUMENT that was supposed to be signed by LRC and the Southern Cameroons after implementation of UN RES 1608 XV and deposited with the UN Secretariat in accordance with UN ART 102 .
A plethora of depositions by the coloniser in my view does not suffice. Southern Cameroons government was never dissolved nor her constitution order in council suspended. Therefore, our immediate task, as Mola stated earlier is to reconstitute an Interim Government to step forward and provide leadership to lead Ambazonia (Former British Southern Cameroons) to total independence and sovereignty. Referendum results will be strong evidence, therefore let us massively participate, and also sign the Petition to US Congress. Let us not spend too much time writing over and over.
JA


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Well said bro.
Fear for several reasons
But
Truth‎ like Fire burn the Liar
From: Muchuo Alexander muchuoalex1999@yahoo.com [Ambazonianationalgroup]
Sent: Sunday, December 4, 2016 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: Caution: SCNC Chair and Susungi

 
Yes,
 The UN knows what happened that we are where we are.Our greatest problem in my estimation has been FEAR.We all know what is needed but we are so  Fear stricken , that we have turned this to the blame game.In an emergency , friends are known and some of the friends may not even understand your language or your name.
 If a law is broken, even an individual or a group of individuals can try to correct the mistake.This matter of you had no right to do this or do that, is simply playing to the gallery and giving the impression that something is being done and that i am better than you.Who gave who the right to do anything about this struggle.I think we are all armed with the conviction of our history and we are all trying to correct things which in our estimation were not well done.Who ever consults us before names are changed.Limbe is a typical recent historical fact and all over the world Limbe is known.
 Except the sell outs all are important.Who gave the rights to the west cameroon free thinkers, Ambazonia , CAM, AAC 1, 2  etc,SCNC 1, 2 etc S OCALIM , The Lawyers,The Teachers, ETC.I thought that this came as a desire to solve this problem urgently and i am happy with all , except the sell outs.I hope the story of South Sudan will not be our lot
.I sincerely pray for all to see a need of being together and facing challenges as they are.Because Governing is actually accommodating people with different ideas.Just see what MOLA Njoh Litumbe is trying to do single handedly and at his age-- what a challenge to all.The UN and the AU etc have received documentation about this issue that can fill a whole library.
 Delays are only caused by our fears and not this or that name.I do not expect anybody to be given a right under the circumstances that we operate.
 Try your best where ever you are and if you are honest about your people, the Almighty will guide your efforts.Thanks.Alex


From: "M A N lordamos88@yahoo.com [Ambazonianationalgroup]" <Ambazonianationalgroup@ yahoogroups.com>
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Sent: Sunday, December 4, 2016 3:09 AM
Subject: Re: Caution: SCNC Chair and Susungi

 
Dear Justice

Your are right. the mess started way back 1st October 1961. Just have a look below ending February 1963. It's terrible. Those guys saw it then as you have said.

STATEMENT of TREATIES and INT ERNATIONAL AGREEMENTS
 
Ratifications, accessions,prorogations, etc., concerning treaties and international agreements registeredwith the Secretariat of the United Na tions
 
Registered or filed and recorded with the Secretariat during October 196 1
 
N o. 118Trusteeship Agreement for the Territory of the Camerounsunder British
Administration. Approved by the General Assemblyof the United Nations on 13th  
December 1946.
Terminationwith respect to the Southern Camerouns
 
No118 Accord de tutelle pour le Territoire du Cameroun sous administrationbritannique.
Approuvé parl'Assemblée générale des Nations Unies le 13 décembre 1946.
Expiration en ce qui concerne le Cameroun méridional
 
Registered or filed and recorded with the Secretariat during November 1962
 
No. 5 87 -Convention(No. 4) of 3 September 1962
Declarationby the Federal Republic of Cameroon confirmingthat it continues to be bound in respect of the FederatedState of Eastern Cameroun by the obligations of the above-mentioned Convention,by which the Republic of Cameroun recognised to be bound at the time of admissioninto th e International Labour Organisation on 7 June 1960.
 
Déclaration de la République fédérale du Cameroun confirmant qu'elle demeure liée, ence qui concerne l'Etat fédéré du Cameroun oriental, parles obligations résultant de ia Convention susmentionnée, par laquelle la Républiquedu Cameroun s'est reconnue liée au moment de son admission à l'Organisationinternationale du Travail le 7 Juin 1960.
 
The samedeclaration goes for these other conventions below for the month of November 1962
No. 588 -Convention (No. 5); - No. 589 -Convention(No, 6); - No. 594 -Convention (No. 11); - No.596 -Convention (No. 13) ;- No. 597 -Convention (No. 14) -No. 609 -Convention (No.26) - No. 612 -Convention (No. 29) - No.615 -Convention (No. 33) - No. 881 -Convention (No. 87) - No. 1871 -Convention (No. 95)  
 
Registered or filed and recorded with the Secretariat during February 1963

No. 594 -Convention (No. 11) of 29January 1963
Ratification by the Federal Republic of Cameroon inrespect of the Federa ted State of Western Cameroon
Ratification de la République fédérale duCameroun en ce qui concerne l'Etat fédéré du Ca merounoccidental.
 
No. 602 -Convention (No. 19) of 29January 1963
Ratification by the Federal Republic of Cameroon in respectof the Federated State of Eastern Cameroon
Ratification de la République fédérale du Cameroun en ce quiconcerne l'Etat fédéré du Cameroun oriental.
 
No. 609 -Convention (No. 26) of 29January 1963
Ratification by the Federal Republic of Cameroon in respectof the Federated State of Western Cameroon
Ratification de la République fédérale duCameroun en ce qui concerne l'Etat fédéré du Camerounoccidental.
 
< span id="yiv7663954153m_5197557983053189404yiv2207318352yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480822273844_95867" lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;">No. 612 -Convention (No/ 29) of 29January 1963
Ratification by the Federal Republic ofCameroon in r espect of the Federated State of EasternCameroon
Ratification de la République fédérale duCameroun en ce qui concerne l'E tat fédéré du Camerounoriental.
 
No. 881 -Convention (No. 87) of 29January 1963
Ratification by the Federal Republic ofCameroon
Ratification de la République fédérale du Cameroun.
 
No. 1341 -Convention (No. 98) of 29January 1963
Ratification by the Federal Republic ofCameroon In respect of the Federated State of EasternCameroon
Ratification de la République fédérale duCameroun en ce qui concerne l'Etat fédéré du Cameroun oriental.
 
No. 1370 -Convention (No. 94) of 29January 1963
Ratificationby the Federal Republic of Cameroon in respect of the FederatedState of Eastern Cameroon
Ratification de la République fédérale du Cameroun en ce qui concerne l'Etat fédéré du Camerounoriental.
 
These are just few international agreements from 1st October1961 to February 1963 dealing with the personality Federal Republic.
 
When it came to United Republic that lasted till 1984 one will notbelieve the misuse of the noun Cameroun/Cameroon.
 
From 1985 till date, it is just the same as it was when Cameroun had her independence from 1st January1960 to September 1961 when we had not joined with Cameroun. We have copies of allthese registrations, and the full text of all the treaties or agreement in ourarchive.

We the people of Ambazonia (Southern Cameroons) have more than enoughinternational proof to show the world that Cameroun is not an honesty state.
 
Our concern now is that, we should not make any mistake in stating ourcase wrongly now to those who are to help us, kick Cameroun out of our country. Onecan have a good case, but once he or she state the case poorly or wrongly, there are high chances of losing the case. We should be very careful how we present ourcase to the world.
 
MAN



From: "JusticeMbuh jmbuh@yahoo.com [Ambazonianationalgroup]" <Ambazonianationalgroup@ yahoogroups.com>
To: Ambas Bay <ambasbay@yahoogroups.com>; AmbazoniaNationalGroup <ambazonianationalgroup@ yahoogroups.com>; Edwin Ngang <ednngang@yahoo.com>; Tanyi Ojongmbo <tanyinoh@yahoo.com>; Amos Mudoh <lordamos88@yahoo.com>; Bri Soucam <nnyamngaisc@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, 4 December 2016, 11:20
Subject: Caution: SCNC Chair and Susungi

 
The UN has consistently made this mistake of use of names Cameroun, Cameroon, Cameroons. This continued even under the Greentree Agreement and even with the ICJ Ruling in 2002. This is ample reason the Ambazonia Restoration Council (ARC) holden in Prof. Bernard N. Fonlon's house way back in 1984 saw the need to rename Southern Cameroons as Ambazonia. This is reason why we have long agreed, since 2001 that we should be using Southern Cameroons interchangeably with Ambazonia with one or the other in parenthesis so as to make clear what territory we are talking about.
This is why I call on Nfor Nfor and Susungi to dissociate themselves from making postings that are divisive, fanning factional fights, which I think should be a thing of the past. Specifically, Nfor's latest release on the Position of the SCNC, and Susungi's on the Referendum would have been stronger with Ambazonia in parenthesis.
If we cautioned Edwin Ngang about his promoting ALIP and urged him and Ambazonia to improve home-front presence, I think we should equally caution SCNC Chairman Nfor Nfor and Susungi.
This misunderstanding of our territory and even our demands is promoted by how badly we've sold ourselves to the idea of seeking disparate independence from French Camer oon, indeed Cameroun.
Let us be mindful that we are not fighting to carry this new country in old bottles out of Africa or that because it bears different names, it belongs to different people--no, it is our country and we better be clear about this, save frogs some more misrepresentations and more hurt!
Be mindful that many francophones do not and have never understood Cameroun, let alone Cameroons history. Our quest for independence should be clear so as to re-educate them about truths surrounding our no union relationship.
Thanks for Understanding.
 
THE LEGACY OF AMBAZONIA  (UN Trust Territory of British Cameroons): The Parliamentary Opposition, ...forged for itself a new role noteworthy for its dignity; and the government,..never attempted to withdraw...the legal recognition that was its due. Thanks to this...West Cameroon has won for itself the prestige of being the one place in West Africa (if not all of Africa) where democracy, in the British style, has lasted longest in its genuine form.  --Prof. Bernard Nsukika Fonlon, The Task of Today, p. 9










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