Kwame Mukong,
The Southern Cameroons Constitutional Order in Council that was given by
Her Majesty's Government to the Southern Cameroons circa September 1960
does spell out who is a Southern Cameroonian in there. To the best of my
knowledge that has not changed.
Blessed Be Cameroon
Pa Fru Ndeh
Pa Fru Ndeh
From: Kwame Mukong <kmukong@hotmail.com>
To: "ambasbay@googlegroups.com" <ambasbay@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: DON'T EVEN THINKER WITH THE IDEA OF FEDERATION!
Pa Zama,
You wrote as follows:
"I would like to insist here that all Southern Cameroonians are people whose both parents are native Southern Cameroonians."
I believe you know that CAN NEVER be the case. We were trained to understand that what an old man sees while sitting, a child cannot see even when he climbs a tree. I like to agree with that statement. I encourage you to revisit your position on who a Southern Cameroonian is.
Best!
Kwame
.Holiness. Spiritual Leadership. Soul Winning. Prosperity. Brotherly Love.
From: 'Pa Zama' via ambasbay <ambasbay@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 8:39:43 PM
To: ambasbay@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: DON'T EVEN THINKER WITH THE IDEA OF FEDERATION!
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 8:39:43 PM
To: ambasbay@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: DON'T EVEN THINKER WITH THE IDEA OF FEDERATION!
Mr. Atemkeng.,
It is surprising that with eye witness accounts of what the invading troupes of la Republique are doing on our territory, some southern Cameroonians can still have the temerity to voice the word federation. Those Southern Cameroonians who are so much in love with federation, have the right to cross the Mungo and Matazem and join their brothers and sisters of la republique du Cameroun. IT HAS BEEN A REAL NIGHTMARE LIVING WITH THESE PEOPLE. AS WE WILL SOON ACHIVE OUR FREEDOM, I WILL STRONGLY OPPOSE ANY DIPLOMATIC TIES WITH SUCH A CALLOUS COUNTRY.
I would like to insist here that all Southern Cameroonians are people whose both parents are native Southern Cameroonians. I also want to insist that people of la republique origine who have sent their children to our schools must take note that we have been erroneously using the term Anglophone to mean those people of the Southwest and North West Provinces.
With the maltreatment we have received from the people of la republique du Cameroon for fifty five years, we must CLEARLY identify ourselves SO THAT THERE SHOULD BE NO AMBIGUITY AT ALL This is what I have done over the years. I Know who I am and can therefore not take the name OR IDENTITY of someone else.
Is it not a pride to say I am from the Southern Cameroons, the soon to be AMBAZONIA?
PLEASE, LET US BE PROUD TO CALL OURSELVES BY OUR NAME.
GOD BEING OUR HELPER WE MUST GET THERE.
WE MUST GO ON OUR KNEES EVERY MORNING AND EVENING PRAYING TO OUR HEAVENLY FATHER TO LEAD US TO OUR FREEDOM FASTER THAN WE EXPECT.
PA ZAMA
On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 3:48 AM, 'Tem Martin' via ambasbay <ambasbay@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Here Below is the original email:
Njousi Abang: njousid@gmail.com
FEDERALIST SHOULD MOVE TO CAMEROUN: DO NOT INTOXICATE THE RESISTANCE
Who would grant us a federation? Who has proposed a federation to us that we talking of accepting a federation? You have not understood the colonial mind properly!!!!!!!! They undermine us, disdain us, simplify us, believe they can fool us forever and ever! They have never so much as even admitted that there is a problem, and now, we step down again to say we want a federation. How? How? Who would grant you that federation that you are talking about? Who? Let us bet: if they will even look at you when you talk of a federation! Such a move is a sign that we are too incapable of resisting the occupation and that it may go on.
1. There are no legal grounds for a federation. Accepting a federation means that we abandon the claim of our territory being colonized; we give Republique du Cameroon a continual claim over the AMBAZONIA (Southern Cameroons') territory. We have said over and over again that our territory is illegally occupied by Republique du Cameroun. And nothing could be more true! If we reverse course now and say we accept federation, we are virtually asking a foreign country and an occupying force to grant us a federation. This will undermine their regard for us even more! I fear that such a move will diminish even the small regard they had for us, but even worse, that they will never accept it! Even if there is a federation of 10 states, we shall only be two out of ten. When the federation was one-to-one, we never managed to get a say. How do we intend to have a say in an 8 to 2 federation?
2. Who is going to negotiate the federation or guarantee its existence? I assure you over and over again that Republique du Cameroun would never grant you any federation in which they do not retain controlling power! Such a federation will breakdown in no time. Accepting a federation that nobody has proposed to you is only a terrible sign of weakness.
3. We have a very strong case for independence, which we will obtain if we keep insisting. There is absolutely no reason to backdown from that position. It may take a little time, but it will happen.
4. In any federal parliament, they will always be the majority, and use their majority to overturn everything we agree upon or to prevent laws that favour us from being passed. And they will never accept a federation in which they have not put all mechanisms from preventing us from ever separating.
5. A federation means that Republique du Cameroun will forever have a right to bring in troops to stop any attempt of separation! Thus willfully accepting a federation is a kind of death sentence we are passing on ourselves. Remember: if we accept a federation, we cannot subsequently argue against it the way we have argued against the federation they imposed on us. And we have no power now to obtain the kind of federation that would serve our best interest!
6. Remember the 1961-1966 federation and its constitution. See the absolute terms that were put in that constitution to say that no proposal to change the federal status of the country will be accepted. What happened? They reversed it in no time. And they will, if they were ever to accept the idea of a federation, which I tell you now, they will not accept.
1. There are no legal grounds for a federation. Accepting a federation means that we abandon the claim of our territory being colonized; we give Republique du Cameroon a continual claim over the AMBAZONIA (Southern Cameroons') territory. We have said over and over again that our territory is illegally occupied by Republique du Cameroun. And nothing could be more true! If we reverse course now and say we accept federation, we are virtually asking a foreign country and an occupying force to grant us a federation. This will undermine their regard for us even more! I fear that such a move will diminish even the small regard they had for us, but even worse, that they will never accept it! Even if there is a federation of 10 states, we shall only be two out of ten. When the federation was one-to-one, we never managed to get a say. How do we intend to have a say in an 8 to 2 federation?
2. Who is going to negotiate the federation or guarantee its existence? I assure you over and over again that Republique du Cameroun would never grant you any federation in which they do not retain controlling power! Such a federation will breakdown in no time. Accepting a federation that nobody has proposed to you is only a terrible sign of weakness.
3. We have a very strong case for independence, which we will obtain if we keep insisting. There is absolutely no reason to backdown from that position. It may take a little time, but it will happen.
4. In any federal parliament, they will always be the majority, and use their majority to overturn everything we agree upon or to prevent laws that favour us from being passed. And they will never accept a federation in which they have not put all mechanisms from preventing us from ever separating.
5. A federation means that Republique du Cameroun will forever have a right to bring in troops to stop any attempt of separation! Thus willfully accepting a federation is a kind of death sentence we are passing on ourselves. Remember: if we accept a federation, we cannot subsequently argue against it the way we have argued against the federation they imposed on us. And we have no power now to obtain the kind of federation that would serve our best interest!
6. Remember the 1961-1966 federation and its constitution. See the absolute terms that were put in that constitution to say that no proposal to change the federal status of the country will be accepted. What happened? They reversed it in no time. And they will, if they were ever to accept the idea of a federation, which I tell you now, they will not accept.
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On Wednesday, 30 November 2016, 7:46, 'Atemkeng Denis' via ambasbay <ambasbay@googlegroups.com> wrote:
SERIOUS WARNING:
Dear All,
Any federation we ask from the invaders will be on their terms and they can never give us a federation in which they do not retain control over the vital issues. How would you even negotiate that federation? How? You are asking, and they are giving, if they give at all! The hand that asks is always lower than the hand that gives!
Always remember the last federation. Go back and read the strong safeguards that were in it, and yet they used their numbers to overturn it. They will forever retain a majority in the federal parliament! So rule out a federation forever! Do not ask an invader who has taken over your house to give you some rights in it. That is what federation amounts to: you are asking the invader to grant you some rights in your own house, when if you were a bit patient, you could get back your house.
I warn all of us about that danger. There is absolutely no basis for a federation! And when you agree to it voluntarily, you have no case against it after that; they will have a right to invade you and reverse any decision you make in your own federated state which they don't like.
Remember: we are not dealing with honest people, but evil of the worst kind! Their agenda is one and one only: to keep us subjugated forever; to dissolve us in their system the way you dissolve sugar in water! We have a case that no one can win but us: the case against their illegal occupation of our territory.
Even if we have no chance today, the world is moving only forward. Every day that dawns sees only new wins for justice and democracy. They will never retreat, and they will not leave the Southern Cameroons behind. The chance will come tomorrow, if not now, if not today. Scotland got a chance to vote for its independence after more than 300 years of English domination. But we have a case that is even stronger than that of Scotland. We need only to keep pressing and pressing, always explaining our case in the right way or taking up arms as the case may be.
Atemnkeng.
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