On 28-Apr-2017, at 4:16 PM, Kumar K <mpi678@gmail.com> wrote:Dear MTCians,.In industries, my team as consultants has observed that the industry that does not spend 25% of profit on advertisement, marketing intelligence, competitors' strategy study, innovation and generating creative ideas for keeping updated, over long term fails to sustain in the market.As regards to educational institutes, the major reasons of failure are:1. Management is part time. Most of the businessmen have diversified to education without knowing anything about education. For them, educatiion is same as running the business and profit is the main motive of running such institutes.2. Most of the higher education institutes are run by people with beurocratic mindset rather than educationists vision.3. More money is spent on advertisement and securing the rank foerr the institute than caring for the quality of education and rank of the desering students.4. Higher institutes were started by visionaries but they have been taken over by the next generation who are more interested in reaping profit than running the institute.5. Democratic process for electing the people at the helm is lacking.In my view, these are some of the reasons for the shutting down of the leading institutes of higher education.Prof P.K.Keshap2017-04-28 15:31 GMT+05:30 virendra goel <goel.virendra@gmail.com>:Basically education is an essential right of each citizen to be provided by the Government. However, when government fails to do so and citizens have to fend for themselves, you may have philanthropist but they may also not be able to fulfill the demand – beyond this it is a commercial activity whether we accept it or not.
Regards
Virendra Goel
From: kdparanjpe@rediffmail.com [mailto:kdparanjpe@rediffmail.
com ]
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 12:01 PM
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Sir, We have to decide whether Education service is a commercial service or not. This
debate is unresolved. The proponents of Education service as a commercial activity
visualize education as a means to provide the student with a job after the successful
graduation from the Institute's( Company's) program. In return, the student pays to study
there. The Institute may also spend and incur costs to get the student suitably placed.In
this world, the teachers deliver the education in the classroom. Their role is that of a
skilled workman (intellectual worker). The Institute's customer is the parent and the
consumer is the student.
This is the world of the marketplace subject to demand for the program and the seats in
the classroom.The competitive spirit rules. The best ones survive and the poorer ones
close down. The student- graduates from this institute have no more use of the Institute
once they are placed. The model works by filling seats by students willing to pay for the
services. More classrooms, more programs(products) more branches, etc. Market corrections
of fees, student admissions happen no one worries about a a bankrupt institute morphing
into a mall, a marriage venue, or a corporate seminar venue.
The proponents of the Education is not a commercial service -and there are many, believe
that, education shapes the mind of the student. Education provides the student with
knowledge and skills so that the student may become a useful member of the society. The
teacher is the fulcrum of this model. The teacher moulds minds; he/she inspires by being
ethically upright, honest, kindly, supportive, a model of rectitude, forgiving and above
all poor and happy. It is the student who becomes aware, follows the course of study
sincerely, chooses a subject for its goodness and not based on the teacher teaching the
subject. It is the student who worries about his career, his occupation and job and
prepares assiduously for it. It is the student who assumes full responsibility for his
future knowing fully well that his teacher is only a guide who shows the way. The
Institution nurtures values, inculcates discipline, turns away those who don't adhere to
its principles. The Institution is not worried about the no of students joining it. It
strives to perfect its knowledge capital and undertakes research on subjects that it
considers as important for the society and not what is fashionable to do.
This is a world that we like to see and wish for as teachers and yet do not support it.
We allow such institutions to get politicized, abused and degrade them to the point of
banishing them. It is a world in which people want to control them because of the grants
and funds provided to them.
Excellence here is largely a self driven initiative of the Institutions based on well
known role models.
We have to decide which of the two we want of our educational institutions whether Govt
run or privately run.
Best regards,
K.Paranjpe
On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 09:12:24 +0530 "virendra goel" wrote
> I believe in a simple principle. All stake holders are responsible for the present ill
in the higher education system and now market forces have come into existence to
eliminate the weaker. Obviously in such correction process people will have to suffer.
Let everybody take the brunt . Talking of interventions means further damage to the
higher education itself. Change is a painful process and every stakeholder has to bear
that pain.If we can recall, we had discussed during proliferation of the higher education
institutes a decade ago that ultimately market forces will take care of
correction.RegardsVirendra GoelFrom: waghodekar@rediffmail.com
[mailto:waghodekar@rediffmail.com ]
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 3:00 PM
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Subject: Re: [MTC Global] Survival for the fittest~ 275 engineering colleges have applied
for closure, AICTE chairman saysThe only thing I would recommend in the matter is to
control the damage so that the societal/national losses are minimized, e.g.:Rehabilitate
these students to nearby Govt/Govt aided or Private colleges.No fees to be charged from
such students for the left over period and they have to finish the prg within 2-3
years.As far a faculty and staff is concerned, it can be absorbed as far as possible in
the State Institutes (public or private) on T & C of their preceding services as
specified in their appointment orders bu tpurely on ad-hoc basis for one year only at a
suitable reduced compensation.
Regards,
Dr. P H Waghodekar, PhD (Egg), IIT,KGP, IE&M, 1985,
Advisor (HR), IBS & PME (PG)
Marathwada Institute of Technology,
NH 211, Beed by pass road,
Aurangabad: 431010 (Maharashtra) INDIA.
(O) 02402375113 (M) 7276661925
E-Mail: waghodekar@rediffmail.com
Website: www.mit.asia
and
Chairman, Advisory Board, MTC Global, Bangalore.
Engineering & Management Education: An Engine of Prosperity.
Classroom teaching must match with Boardroom needs!
From: "rajul datt"
Sent: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 11:37:34
To:
Subject: Re: [MTC Global] Survival for the fittest~ 275 engineering colleges have applied
for closure, AICTE chairman says
Respected Sirs/Madams,
Greetings!
I am longing to hear from esteemed members to write something about the fate of the
students passed/passing from such institutions (275) .Rest is ofcourse history to discuss
and ponder upon which I am religiously reading and learning .
Rajul
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 10:34:06 +0530 Pious Thomas wrote
>Dear Colleagues,
A good suggestion for utilizing such assets is to start "Skill Development Centres'.
My suggestion is "Why not we start Flexible Degree/Diploma Programs for Working
Professionals?" or those who want to work. It should be based on Employability Skills,
Technical and Social Skills.
Most of the Pacific nations like Australia, Newzeland, Indonesia, PNG etc. these programs
are more demanded than the regular degree programs. This is only because of the
curriculum designed by the industry-academic professionals in collaboration.
Why not MTC Global take initiative in this? I will be first one to be a part of this
program as I have worked 3 years in PNG with such programs.
Warm Regards
Dr. Pious ThomasDirector, Academic
Bharata Mata Institute of Management (BMIM)Thrikkakara, Ernakulum, Kerala
Mobile India:+91 7591915902
https://www.facebook.com/piousskillsforsuccessWebsite : www.skillsforsuccess.in
On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Prabhakar Waghodekar wrote:
Thank you Professor Banerjeeji,
I agree with you views and ground realities.But under your and mine views are hidden the
the basic issues and their remedies (solutions) too!
It is all about business strategies for one's survival (Institute or individual),
remotely concerned with national development, e.g., see your points 1 and 2.
My main concern is:
How to use the assets created by the would be closing colleges be for national cause?Mr.
Krishna has suggested to convert such colleges into skill development centers. Good
proposal.
What means we can adopt to minimize the losses of both students admitted and employees?
To penalize the institute or not? If not to be penalized, how to use the potential of
such Trusts for national development? Of course, no compensation is recommended but
certainly Govt. can provide them loan facilities.
Regards,
Dr. P H Waghodekar, PhD (Egg), IIT,KGP, IE&M, 1985,
Advisor (HR), IBS & PME (PG)
Marathwada Institute of Technology,
NH 211, Beed by pass road,
Aurangabad: 431010 (Maharashtra) INDIA.
(O) 02402375113 (M) 7276661925
E-Mail: waghodekar@rediffmail.com
Website: www.mit.asia
and
Chairman, Advisory Board, MTC Global, Bangalore.
Engineering & Management Education: An Engine of Prosperity.
Classroom teaching must match with Boardroom needs!
From: Sun
Sent: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 18:51:00
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Subject: Re: [MTC Global] Survival for the fittest~ 275 engineering colleges have applied
for closure, AICTE chairman says
Dear Prof. Waghodekar,
Greetings and Regards!
My take on business schools and private universities is very clear.
1. Poor infrastructure2. Low class faculty who have done PhD from private universities
and willing to work for a pittance3. No government or statutory body to help our plight4.
Closing an institute is never an option till we give up not them
Since I shifted to Bangalore to Mumbai 2 years back there are huge strategic, leadership
and vision issues. Mumbai all three b schools I worked we got 6th pay and freedom in
domains. Here in Bangalore there in tremendous instability, no PF, no group insurance, no
health benefits, huge firing without any reason and (salaries in a top university you
will be amazed is delayed beyond 3 months).
There is a policy flaw basically and we need to represent central and state governments.
All of us know what is AICTE!
Best wishes,
Dr. Sunmeet Banerjee
@ iPhone
On 25-Apr-2017, at 16:22, Prabhakar Waghodekar wrote:
My take is:
It (closing institutes) is a part of business cycle as we have been considering education
as a service industry.The institutes being closed have generated national assets. How to
bring them (assets) in the cause of national development is a matter of urgent
consideration.
Is it justifyable to impose penalty on such colleges? Do we impose penalty on lock-out or
bankrupt industry?
Regards,
Dr. P H Waghodekar, PhD (Egg), IIT,KGP, IE&M, 1985,
Advisor (HR), IBS & PME (PG)
Marathwada Institute of Technology,
NH 211, Beed by pass road,
Aurangabad: 431010 (Maharashtra) INDIA.
(O) 02402375113 (M) 7276661925
E-Mail: waghodekar@rediffmail.com
Website: www.mit.asia
and
Chairman, Advisory Board, MTC Global, Bangalore.
Engineering & Management Education: An Engine of Prosperity.
Classroom teaching must match with Boardroom needs!
From: "Prof. Bholanath Dutta"
Sent: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 13:30:11
To: join_mtc
Subject: [MTC Global] Survival for the fittest~ 275 engineering colleges have applied for
closure, AICTE chairman says
COIMBATORE: A total of 275 engineering colleges across the country applied forclosurethis
year, saidchairmanof All India Council for Technical Education (AICTE) Anil D
Sahasrabuddhe on Friday.The maximum number of institutions that have applied for closure
are from Tamil Nadu and Andhra Pradesh. "The number of institutions are almost equal from
all states. Tamil Nadu and Andhra alone have more," Sahasrabuddhe said here.In the past
two years, the AICTE has been actively working on reducing the quantity of engineering
institutions across the country. The regulatory body has also reduced the penalty for
closing down an engineering institution that was a deterrent for many colleges which were
willing to shut in the midst of poor demand.Source: TOI
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