"Mandela was involved in the anti colonial movement, even before the national party instituted apartheid. I thought the secessionists are anti colonialists?" Agbor
Can someone explain what the supporter of colonialism-Agbor- is saying in the statement above?
Mandela went to school before apartheid was created. At the time schools were not segregated. It is similar to Nkrumah going to school in the US. On return, Nkrumah energized the people towards their independence. How can Mandela attending an unsegregated SA school make him a collaborator of colonialism? perhaps only in the eyes of supporters of colonialism.
Mandela's fight after 1948 was to ensure better education for all SAns, not the one dished out by apartheid.
For your information, EN attended college in the USA with students taken out of the segregated schools in SA and sent to America. A student who claimed to have earned a Bachelor's degree under apartheid was required to re-do the junior and senior levels in the US before obtaining a BS degree. In which case a BA degree under apartheid was equivalent to an Associate degree in America. Mandela fought against that system. SCians are fighting against a system that de-educates its citizens. No rational person will continue to allow his/her children de-educated with pidgin English and Camfranglais. Look at what has happened to the GCE today? You think any school can accept a student with five A levels as a high school graduate?
EN
Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson
"There may be times when we are powerless to prevent injustice, but there must never be a time when we fail to protest." -- Elie Wiesel
"There may be times when we are powerless to prevent injustice, but there must never be a time when we fail to protest." -- Elie Wiesel
On Monday, August 21, 2017 4:37 PM, "enow007 Enow007@yahoo.com [cameroon_politics]" <cameroon_politics@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
EN
Mandela was involved in the anti colonial movement, even before the national party instituted apartheid. I thought the secessionists are anti colonialists? Since colonization is good, can the secessionists stop complaining about the colonization of LRC.
Once more review your facts before taking them public. Mandela attended a school built and managed by the colonialist. He new that education was essential to the revolution. The Ambazonia secessionists are instead taking education away from their children.
Augustine Enow Agbor
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From: "Esu Ndzem-Usu ndzemusu@yahoo.com [camnetwork]" <camnetwork@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 8/21/17 2:10 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: camnetwork@yahoogroups.com, cameroon_politics@yahoogroups.com, ambasbay@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [cameroon_politics] Re: [camnetwork] Re: Re: MAKING SMART DECISIONS – "We have to give government time to respond to our demands "(Augustine Enow Agbor Aug 18, 2017 6: 12 PM)
Agbor
Yours again show how limited your knowledge of world affair is, and SA in particular. For your information, when Mandela went to school, SA was not yet officially practicing Apartheid. After the National Party gained power in South Africa in 1948, its all-white government immediately began enforcing existing policies of racial segregation under a system of legislation that it called apartheid. Under apartheid, nonwhite South Africans (a majority of the population) would be forced to live in separate areas from whites and use separate public facilities, and contact between the two groups would be limited. Mandala went to the same school as White South Africans, not the balkanized segregation schools meant to create second class S. Africans. This remained in effect for 50 years, until 1991 when Mandela defeated them. Note that Mandela did not become a lawyer after 1948.
SCians going to a school system created by LRC is similar to attending a school system meant to reduce SCians to beggars in their country, where they must answer every question in French and look up to French Cameroon as their leaders. Black on black Apartheid?
EN
"Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson
"There may be times when we are powerless to prevent injustice, but there must never be a time when we fail to protest." -- Elie Wiesel
"There may be times when we are powerless to prevent injustice, but there must never be a time when we fail to protest." -- Elie Wiesel
On Monday, August 21, 2017 1:56 PM, "Esu Ndzem-Usu ndzemusu@yahoo.com [camnetwork]" <camnetwork@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Janvier
It is always a pleasure to read your narratives for a united Cameroon. Many were those who held that view until the reality on the ground proved that it is only utopic to dream of a new Cameroon with both SC and LRC living side by side. Nkrumah's dream was wrongly embedded in our founding fathers until the new generations became aware that mixing with people who do not know what a gentleman means with those who keep their words can only be to the detriment of the gentleman.
Such is obvious given that since this struggle began about 10 months ago, Janvier's writing seems to be pointed only at those who have borne the brunt of the struggle. One wonders when the rest of the Cameroons- the internet section- will stand up against the system that SCians are fighting against.
Also, visiting the Cameroons for business may not be time for political actions. It's unnecessary to imply that a business trip to Yaoundé must be one used for political causes.
EN
"Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson
"There may be times when we are powerless to prevent injustice, but there must never be a time when we fail to protest." -- Elie Wiesel
"There may be times when we are powerless to prevent injustice, but there must never be a time when we fail to protest." -- Elie Wiesel
On Monday, August 21, 2017 1:35 PM, "Tchouteu Janvier j_kamerun@yahoo.com [camnetwork]" <camnetwork@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Massa Manu T,
So with all the diatribe coming from you even against those who make the system their number one enemy (the Cameroonian ruling political class and the puppet masters), you did not make a fuss about "La Republique" while you were home (if you had done so, it would have been a reflection of your "supposed" vehemence against "La Republique" that has/had been expressed from abroad over the past months), only to return to the DIASPORA and start running your mouth again.
True revolutionaries lead from the front, my friend. Many are tempted to conclude that you are just like the many impostors, charlatans in the classic sense of the word, who ultimately make rackets out of causes that others risked or gave their lives for, believing them to be movements.
The union-nationalists gave you guys a free-hand to bring your cause to a logical conclusion. Alas, it is obvious you guys never thought things through, you guys never had a plan, you guys merely usurped the agitation for change that had been whipped up to an advanced stage in the lands West of the River Mungo, an agitation that was supposed to stir a nation-wide or groundswell of popular resentment, protest and ultimately resistance against the anachronistic French-imposed system rejected by the overwhelming majority of Cameroonians of all linguistic entities, regions, ethnic groups of religion. You guys were even provided with subtle and at times overt guidelines on making this an all-embracing endeavor, but apparently, you were incapable of rising up to the challenge---you were not revolutionary, or were incapable of becoming revolutionary.
Classic revolutionaries do not engage in senseless disorder that only serves to strengthen the enemies of the people---the anachronistic system (which is why some people think your group and the system make each other relevant, thereby giving more life to the moribund system and to yourself against the majority desire of Cameroonians to found the New Cameroon that is a reflection of their century-old civic-nationalism otherwise called union-nationalism).
Do not take this as a condemnation, my brother. Anybody who was genuinely engaged in rejecting the system without harming his fellow citizens should not be condemned. But you should be judged, my friend, especially if you condemned those who did not subscribe to your narrow cause. And if the narrow reaches a point where it impedes the welfare of the people it was supposed to advance, it only makes sense for you to be open-minded enough to acknowledge your shortcomings and embrace those who never condemned you, those who acknowledged the fundamental aspects of your diagnostics of the Cameroon malady.
The system can be dismantled before the end of this decade, the "New Cameroon" that our forefathers fought and died for, the "New Cameroon" that our forefathers voted for in the 1961 plebiscite can finally be realized. But for that to happen, advocates for change would need to close their divided ranks. Advocates for change can realize that "New Cameroon" with different shades of ideas that fall within the all-embracing Cameroon Idea that fire
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