Re: Re: MAKING SMART DECISIONS – "We have to give government time to respond to our demands "(Augustine Enow Agbor Aug 18, 2017 6: 12 PM)

the gov't had more than 56 years to do so!



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Subject: Re: Re: MAKING SMART DECISIONS – "We have to give government time to respond to our demands "(Augustine Enow Agbor Aug 18, 2017 6: 12 PM)
 
Can these funny ones kindly tell us who they refer to as government? Whose government?
NN

On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 10:23 PM, 'Mannu T.' via ambasbay <ambasbay@googlegroups.com> wrote:
"Bro Kim's...Your concerns are legitimate,  We have to give  government time to respond to our demands... you should understand better how governments respond to such demands. (Augustine Enow Agbor  Aug 18, 2017 6: 12 PM)
 
Let's take a look:
Southwest Region.-
148 Magistrates in the Southwest- 58 francophone magistrates in the Southwest, making 39.2 %-
89 magistrates in legal department in the Southwest region. 54 of them are francophones. Making 60.7% of francophones.-
50 magistrates working in Buea (Bench & Legal Department) - 20 francophone Magistrates in Buea making 40 % of francophones.-
28 magistrates in the legal departments Buea, 20 of them are francophones. Making 71.4% of francophones.-
30 new bailiffs were appointed in January 2014 and 28 of them are francophones, making 93.2% of francophones.
NORTHWEST region:
There are 128 magistrates in the Northwest - 67 francophone magistrates in the Northwest. 52.3 %-
There are 97 Magistrates of the Legal Departments, 64 of them are francophones, making 65.9% of francophones.-
Thereare 45 Magistrates working in the Bamenda - 22of them are francophone, making 48.9%of francophones.-
27 magistrates in the Legal departments Bamenda, 21 of them are francophones. Making77.8 % of francophones.-
21 new bailiffs were appointed in January 2014 and all of them are francophones. Making 100% francophones.
Comparing major Regional head quarters: situation of Anglophones in Douala and Yaounde Courts compared with situation of Francophones in Bamenda and Buea.-
Thereare 119 Magistrates in the Courts of Douala.
Two (2) of them are Anglophones making1.7% of magistrates.-
There are 107 Magistrates in the Courts of Yaounde.
Two (2) of them are Anglophones making 1.9 %.- As a reminder, 49% of Magistrates in Bamenda and 40% of magistrates in Buea the Anglophone regional headquarters are francophones.
 
Here they come again! The opportunists, collaborators and dirty double-crossers are once again at it. They will not hesitate to go to any length and breadth to propagate their treacherous and insidious propaganda for LRC.  Yeah Right!!! "We have to give government time to respond to our demands"… How much time must we give the government?  How much time has already been given the government since independence?  How long has the government had to correct the disproportionate appointments above? Where have these LRC propagandists been all these years? 

They sings praises and pass motion of support for LRC, but they can't travel across their regions during the raining seasons. Some have to go through Nigeria in order to reach their villages... but you know what? "We have to give  government time to respond to our demands".... despite government's highly obvious and conspicuous lack of interest in the development of our enclaves..hell No!! "We [still] have to give  government time to respond to our demands"..because treacherous opportunists are hoping for crumbs that may fall their way from LRC!!! Oh Yes people!!.."We [must] give  government time to respond to our demands" No kidding..when do they run out of time?
As usual, there are always "blacklegs" in every movement and the SC movement is no exception! 
Manu


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Subject: [cameroon_politics] Re: MAKING SMART DECISIONS – THE SECESSIONIST DECISION PROBLEM



Big Bro Morgan,

I believe the actions of the secessionist groups is delaying the release of justice Ayah, Balla, Fontem and Co. It is my singular belief that their detention is part of the government's effort to prevent secessionist revolution in the home soil. My suggestion to every Manyu persons nominated or appointed to lead any group that stand for secession is to put out a public statement and deny such nomination if you do not share the values of such groups. TI have made it clear that I believe in free speech and that Balla and Fontem should be released. 

Augustine Enow Agbor

 
The outcome of my life is not more than three lines: I was a raw material I became mature and cooked And I was burned into nothingness. Rumi


On Saturday, August 19, 2017 4:52 PM, Morgan Enowmbitang <mjenow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:


Enow,

This is your Sr. Brother Morgan from Mbinjong. I enjoy reading your arguments but had actually learned a lot from this young man - Ayah Ayah Abine. The essence of education is being able to learn from others and adjust your position. Enjoy

"Ok Bro, just a summary. Told the renown paper that the release of ALL Anglophon detainees is the ONLY way out for the gov't to calm the rising tensions and pave way for genuine dialogue. That the ammunition discovered IN Mbengwi is possibly a drama and that if ever this crisis explosed to incontrôlable dimensions, It Will BE owing to gov't irresponsibility 100%. That its ONLY IN Cameroon that negociators are arreated, the mouth pièce of a crowd. That fédéralists are arrested and detained Then the same gov't senda people abroad to go chat with séparatists; ridiculous. Etc"

Morgan Enowmbitang 

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On Aug 18, 2017, at 6:12 PM, 'enow007' via ambasbay <ambasbay@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Bro Kim's,
Your concerns are legitimate,  but putting yourself out of the country by creating your own artificial country called Ambazonia is not a strategy to fix such problems. 

We have to give give government time to respond to our demands. As a highly educated person,  you should understand better how governments respond to such demands. Go through the attachment and assess for yourself if the actions taken by government so far is not a move on the right direction. We are all critics if the government, but we should be constructive in our criticism. 

Thanks for your concerns.

Augustine Enow Agbor 




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Subject: Re: MAKING SMART DECISIONS – THE SECESSIONIST DECISION PROBLEM

Mr. Agbor Enow:
I don't know you personally.
It does not bother you that of all the Foreign Bureaus, you might only have 2 or 3 S.C. as Ambassadors? You mean there are no qualified S.C. who can be sent to represent the Country as Ambassadors? Just to let you know if you keep blind eyes and ears to Marginalization, you become a Slave forever.

--Concerned Citizen

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Subject:MAKING SMART DECISIONS – THE SECESSIONIST DECISION PROBLEM

MAKING SMART DECISIONS – THE SECESSIONIST DECISION PROBLEM
 
Everyone who have engagedin a serious negotiation understands that a good solution to a well posedproblem is nearly always more satisfying than an excellent solution
to a poorly conceivedproblem. Whereas the Anglophone lawyers and teachers defined some excellentproblems facing the Anglophone communities, and separated the people(Anglophones vs. Francophones) from t he problems, they failed to stop the manyfailed secessionist and irredentist movements from hijacking their good cause.
 
After the secessionists stolethe cause of Cameroon lawyers and teachers, any further negotiation was made untenable,because the secessionists frame each issue as a single, rather than a joint searchfor objective criteria. Moreover, by invoking and declaring the creation of anelusive ambozonia state, the secessionists failed to reason and be open toreason on which standards to choose when negotiating with their government. Inaddition, the government of the Republic of Cameroon, like any other astutenegotiating body, will never yield to pressure, but only to principles.
 
My simple research pointsto the fact that the government of junta Paul Biya has been engaging theteachers and lawyers, and actually resolving most of the issues they raised.While all these issues might not be solved in a single day, or be solved to thecomplete desires of the lawyers and teachers, the inroads made so far is anindication that the government is listening to the chagrins of the Anglophones.Below are some of the actions taken by the regim e of junta Biya to fix theAnglophone problem:
 
Actions already taken and being undertaken by theGovernment to resolve the concerns raised by the Anglophone Lawyers.-
 
1)      Preparationsare underway for the holding of the National Forum on the judiciary.
 
2)     TheOHADA Treaty and other OHADA instruments have been published in English.
 
3)     TheHead of State has ordered a census of judicial and legal officers of Englishexpression with a view to increase the number of English –speaking judicial andlegal officers at this highest court. < /o:p>
 
4)     ACommon Law Section has been included at the Supreme Court.
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5)     ACom mon Law Section is to be created at the National School of Administrationand Magistracy.
 
6)    Thesetting up of a working group to specify, on the one hand, the contents ofcurricula in universities, legal courses for the judicial careers and, on theother hand, the content of curricula for the training of student magistratesand registrars.
 
7)     Theeminent recruitment of a huge number of Anglophones teachers at the Magistracyand Registry Division of ENAM.
 
8)    Thespecial recruitment of English-speaking Pupil judicial and Legal Officers andCourt Registrars over a period of four years based on quotas has been ordered.
 
9)    Theprogramming of the teaching of Public Law in the Universities of Buea andBamenda.
 
10) The recruitment of interpreters specialized incourts, pending the results of the special recruitment of Anglophonemagistrates and registrars.
 
11)  The continuation, on a transitional basis, of theexercise of duties of lawyers and notaries, cumulatively in the North West and SouthWest Regions.
 
12) Somejudicial and legal officers have been transferred on the Head of State'sinstructions on linguistic bases.
 
13) Thesetting-up of a Faculty of Legal and Political Sciences at the University ofBuea.
 
14) Thesetting-up of a department of English law in the Uni versities of Douala,Maroua, Ngaoundere and Dschang, similar to that of the University of Yaounde IISoa and programming the teaching of Public law in the universities of Buea andBamenda.
 
15)  Thesetting-up of an Institute of judicial studies to train advocates notariespublic and bailiffs.
 
Augustine Enow Agbor

The outcome of my life is not more than three lines: I was a raw material I became mature and cooked And I was burned into nothingness. Rumi
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