Well, they say that God works in mysterious ways Guy.
That must be one of those incidents
On 2013-03-02, at 4:46 AM, Guy Moorman wrote:
Hell, Curtis, you think you are making all that money because you are just good. Part of it is God is going to take care of any fool that lives where it gets that damned cold. My wife did learn one thing on that trip to Calgary. When we were looking for the dinosaur museum, we needed gas in the car but she would not stop because there would be a station in a few miles. Thirty miles later I made her turn off and drive into a "town" and go to the one station and fill the damned thing up. There is a God because she did that.
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From: acesthetics@googlegroups.com [mailto:acesthetics@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Curtis Westersund
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 9:56 AM
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Subject: Re: [ACEsthetics] Heart disease someone?
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 9:56 AM
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Subject: Re: [ACEsthetics] Heart disease someone?
Sex -check. Fine wine - check. Believe in GOD. Hmmmm. What if you believe in "TODD"
Will you still have a happy life?
You newbees. India is a major veg country. No meat no eggs no fish. Yet the diseases are similar. It is quality quantity genetics and location for starters
Lots of long term info avl from the ongoing harvard study.
Lead a happy life. Sexercise often drink fine wines and believe in GOD.
The future is not ours to see - it is a path that our destinies will make us follow till the end of the road
So much for today !! Warm regards
Arun.
Lots of long term info avl from the ongoing harvard study.
Lead a happy life. Sexercise often drink fine wines and believe in GOD.
The future is not ours to see - it is a path that our destinies will make us follow till the end of the road
So much for today !! Warm regards
Arun.
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 09:35:34 -0500
Subject: Re: [ACEsthetics] Heart disease someone?
See, we are not that far apart. Human ingenuity may have gotten us into this mess and and both vegetarian, meat eaters, plant based, meat based......eaters all feel the need to protect their turf. Even in the face of their own evidence.
The China survey fits right in. For example, in the book it demonstrates that plant protein intake correlates positively with many of the "Western diseases" (diabetes, heart disease, breast, colorectal, cervix and stomach cancers for example) yet ignore their own data and blame it on animal fats, dairy etc etc. What is interesting is that wheat (Michael will like this) was left out of his conclusions yet correlated more strongly than plant, meat or dairy.......
It is very much emotional. And apparently authors and scientists are not void of emotion. Or perhaps its due to grant funding as that's how they keep their jobs. They apply for a grant that's builds on the last research. That's how they keep their job.......and their ego? Rare is it they say "oops" maybe it's not what I concluded last time.
So, even in the face of their own data, their beliefs can be expressed. this is only one example and the china survey and it's contributors do not stand alone in these actions. It is not uncommon. We simply have to read the papers to see it.
From: Rick Coker
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 7:28 AM
To: Guy Moorman
Cc: Mchenry Lee ; Ace
Subject: Re: [ACEsthetics] Heart disease someone?
I think that if you just look at simple demographics, populations that eat like we eat have many more disease states, much more obesity, diabetes, and attendant issues than populations where there isn't as much rich food available. The genetics are there, waiting to be expressed when the environment provides it, but the truth is, no populations have really ever been exposed to the sort of foods our culture is gorging itself on, probably, in the course of human history.
It is a triumph of human ingenuity, of getting affordable foods to millions and millions, but a tragedy that our countries will have to learn to deal with. Frankly, I don't think that any single payer health coverage will be able to afford to pay the health costs springing from this, and if you look at the costs involved with diabetes alone, you will see a scary incidence and cost curve trending up. Unlike lung cancer, where death cuts the care costs dramatically, diabetics slowly lose their productivity as they lose toes and feet and eyesight, but they don't die so quickly, and with their increasing disabilities, they require more care, more power chairs, more doctor visits and so on.
We can argue whether it is the animal derived foods, or the processed and sugar and fat laden foods, but it is probably both that are culprits. You know the first thing most people say to me when I tell them I am eating only plants? -"I am not giving up my cheeseburgers!" Or some variation of that, when the fact is that I never have said anything about what they should eat, only what I am eating! It is just a very emotional subject, where all sorts of defensiveness arises.
Rick
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 6:06 AM, Guy Moorman <gmoor@windstream.net> wrote:
Both of our radiologists are Oriental…Thailand and Cambodia. When I was found to be toting around about three pounds of concrete in my coronary arteries I was kidding them about being clear because they ate nothing but roots and berries going up. No true they said. Fats are in everything except pure fiber which has no food value but great value in moving things. Their diets did contain fats and in their worlds any fat they could fry in. The guy from Cambodia has a real problem with English and when he was asking what we thought a wok was for it broke us up.
It seems that though considerably less than in the US where all found basics are available to just about anyone, over they took what they could get. They used massive amounts of remaining US Air force cooking oil. They ate animal fat in large quantities, especially fowl. They think it is to a large degree genetic but certainly credit the lack of availability of the vast amounts of lipids we have in the US.
Guy W. Moorman, Jr., D.D.S.
The Swamp
Douglas, GA 31533
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Cc: Ace
Subject: Re: [ACEsthetics] Heart disease someone?
You get around these guys, McDougall and Esslestyn, you really don't get any idea that you have to buy their books or pay to hear them at all. And they don't sell supplements or really anything.
Here is a long article showing evidence from way back: http://healthylongevity.blogspot.com/2012/11/traditional-diets-in-asia-pacific-and.html
Rick
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Mchenry Lee <drmaclee@gmail.com> wrote:
Rick,
I know he is saying that with plant based diet there is no cardio disease and he is selling seminars and books to back it up.
Do you believe or have you read solid studies that back that up?
Mac
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Take a look at this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EqKNfyUPzoURick--
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