Re: [MTC Global] India only BRIC nation with no university among top 200: THE Ranking 2014

Crisis of survival is the significant concept in understanding the achievement of Indian origin foreign settled individuals. crisis of survival triggers an anxiety and insecurity that makes them to drive them for achievement and excellence. another factor is dignity of labour, whuch is positive and and they prefer to do any job in foreign soil and the conflict it evokes in them ( both satisfactory and unsatisfactory; they feel worthy for earning something and satisfied. feels not adequate enough causes unsatisfactory feelings and expect them to aspire more). 

Not the environment where if you set your mind to achieve you can without a zillion impediments on the  way?
Fear then is what makes the Indians outside this country successful...?
My take fear can make you survive not succeed...it requires guts to succeed
G


On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Vijendra Kumar <shankrivi@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear All,
I agree with Goel sir, Crisis of survival is the significant concept in understanding the achievement of Indian origin foreign settled individuals. crisis of survival triggers an anxiety and insecurity that makes them to drive them for achievement and excellence. another factor is dignity of labour, whuch is positive and and they prefer to do any job in foreign soil and the conflict it evokes in them ( both satisfactory and unsatisfactory; they feel worthy for earning something and satisfied. feels not adequate enough causes unsatisfactory feelings and expect them to aspire more).
However, it is not studied enough and some body can do research on this.
Back here, we need question ourselves, what are the factors:
1. Is there any genetic cause (evolutionary?) for this behaviour? the answer may be no because, Indians have rich heritage and achievements in the past.
2. Is resources not enough? again the answer is no. We do have plenty of natural resources  resources and manpower.
3. Is there a psychological reason for wanting to be mediocre? Probably yes. Indians are not leaders. they do not want to be leaders. they wait for leaders to come and solve problem. We believe in 'Krishna comes and solves our problem' (it is at collective unconscious level). we believe that we are helpless ( I do not know whether this hypothesis is fully true?)
4. socially we are not together. we are not able to feel that we are all one. diversity made us to be suspicious?
5. political factors: let me not say anything. Is it a menace?.
More and more questions. Can anybody do research and get 10 Ph.D's?
Regards,
Prof. Vijendra Kumar S.K.
Assistant Professor & Counseling Psychologist
PES University
Bangalore







On Saturday, March 8, 2014 10:09 AM, Virendra Goel <goel.virendra@gmail.com> wrote:
If 6 month’s training after obtaining degree can make them job ready, I would say there is nothing wrong with our education system. Saying that students going abroad are among our best students may not be true. They do perform better there because of 2 reasons:
1.       There is at all times, a crisis of survival and that brings best out of them.
2.       There are opportunities for additional and re-learning and there are more opportunities if you are not able to make it to one.
The day we reach the level these 2 conditions will prevail in our country, everything will fall in place.
 
Look around you and see how many unemployed youth are there facing crisis of survival?
Regards
Virendra Goel
 
 
From: join_mtc@googlegroups.com [mailto:join_mtc@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Suresh Abhyankar
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 3:50 PM
To: join_mtc@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [MTC Global] India only BRIC nation with no university among top 200: THE Ranking 2014
 
All this is not a game
Our students when they pass out of any university or Institute are not job ready, they need to get trained for job for at least 6 months
Our examination system is leaning towards passing maximum students every year
our students are unable to communicate properly even in their mother tongue
No one is interested in research and innovation
we need to change our education system from grass root 
Our students who do well after  going to US are best among our lot, we should be proud of them but should not become complacent
we can change only when we accept to ourselves that we are not GOOD 

Dr. Suresh Abhyankar
Former Dean Faculty of Management
Dr. D.Y. Patil Vidyapeeth Pune
Director, Global Business School & Research Center
09822067088
 
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:17 PM, Alok Mathur <akmathur@iihmr.org> wrote:
We should not get upset.
All this is a ranking ‘game’.
 
We all know, that it is based on certain criterion.
Now if we study these criterion and start striving for each criterion in one year’s time you will find that many Indian Universities will also be in the list of these top Universities. Question here is do we want to do this?
 
Actually we should question the criterion.
 
The ultimate product of the Universities is the quality of the students it produce. The students who are humane, considerate, thoughtful, innovative, creative, industrious, compassionate, gentle , nice, kind, benevolent…. towards the other human beings and those who care about environment and see themselves as a part of world. If the pass out product of these Universities are nasty, merciless, heartless, selfish, harsh, have no respect about others, vindictive, autocrat, malicious, merciless ….and do not care for environment, have no feeling for the development of others…...
 
How can good University criterion and  weightage can be following (13 performance indicators which were grouped into five areas):
·         Teaching: the learning environment (worth 30 per cent of the overall ranking score)
·         Research: volume, income and reputation (worth 30 per cent)
·         Citations: research influence (worth 30 per cent)
·         Industry income: innovation (worth 2.5 per cent)
·         International outlook: staff, students and research (worth 7.5 per cent).
 
On the other hand if we change the criterion you will find that these top ranked Universities will come down in the list – The criterion can be as follows:
The sensitivity level of the students who pass out from these Universities.
The happiness index of the students,
Cost of the education provided in these universities
Affordability of any course in these Universities
Stress, anxiety and depression faced by them during University education
How sympathetic are they towards the needs of others,
How many would take care of their sick and old parents once they start earning
Degree of their selflessness. etc.
……….
 
 
Regards
Alok K Mathur
 
From: join_mtc@googlegroups.com [mailto:join_mtc@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Prof. Bholanath Dutta
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:05 AM
To: 'join_mtc'
Subject: [MTC Global] India only BRIC nation with no university among top 200: THE Ranking 2014
 
Phil Baty, editor of the Times Higher Education (THE) magazine's 2014 'World Reputation Rankings' has said that India is the only one of the so-called BRIC [Brazil, Russia, India and China] nations which does not have a university in the world top 100.
“Mainland China has two, both in the top 50, Russia and Brazil have one each - this should be a cause for concern for India," he added. In the recently released list of top universities of the world, by THE, none of the Indian have been able to break into the list of top 200 universities.
Harvard University in the US has yet again topped the list, it is followed by the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), Stanford University is placed third, the University of Cambridge at fourth, the University of Oxford comes fifth and the University of California, Berkeley sixth. The list, based on a largest invitation-only survey of senior academics, saw conspicuous absence of Indian varsities.
"While we only officially rank the world's top 100 institutions, I can reveal that India is some way off the pace roughly around the 200th position," Baty added. Punjab University, alma mater of Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, found a place in the unranked section of 226-300. It is followed by the Indian Institutes of Technology (IITs) in Delhi, Kanpur, Kharagpur and Roorkee, ranked between 351-400.
 
 
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