DIXIT | CAMEROUN/RAS-LE-BOL... «Donnez un autre référendum aux Anglophones, ils voteront pour quitter le Cameroun.»
--- Cardinal Christian Wiyghan Tumi
--- Cardinal Christian Wiyghan Tumi
> Jean Roger Kuate, Foading Kuate, Boniface Niba, Ayah Paul, Nfor Susungi, Ntemfac Ofege, Boniface Wewe, Awafong Julius, Angie Forbin, Manyo Bernard, Serge Banyongen, Senibnefer, Rexon Nting, Charles Atangana, Simon Inou, Evelyne-Mathilde Mballa, Joseph Nso, Ajong Stanislaus, Jakline Ajong, Azoh Jacobs, George Achu, Achu Miran...
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· Foading Kuate Ntemfac Ofege 2 000 000 de cartes c'est une bonne chose, il faut alors déjà faire des marches à bamenda et a buea si vous avez du courage. vous restez derrière votre clavier vous racontez des bêtises. complexé que vous pouvez être, british fais quoi sur le nom de votre pays qui n'existe que dans vos rêves?? vous n'avez pas de village?? donnez déjà le nom de votre village à votre pays imaginaire.See Translation
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· Chantal Eballa Les anglophones se sentent marginalisés ou ils s auto marginalisent?See Translation
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· Emeric Noupa C'est normal puisqu'ils ont été berne par la partie francophone. Ils avaient fait adhéré au fédéralisme et non à l'état unitaire. Et ils ont été très lésé dans la redistribution des revenus du pétrole qui est extrait chez eux de même que dans les pratiques administratif qui sont très centralisée du côté francophone ou on nomme tout même les chef cutumier etc..See Translation
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· Boniface Niba Donnez un référendum aux Camerounais e ils ( Francophones et Anglophones),voteront pour le Cameroun Fédérale et effectivement Indépendant de la France
Donnez un référendum aux Camerounais e ils ( Francophones et Anglophones),voteront pour l'autodétermination de son destin surtout économique hors du system nazi-vichy du F.CFA»
Donnez un référendum aux Camerounais e ils( Francophones et Anglophones), voteront pour la fin de la centralisation e concentration nazi fasciste du pourvoir au Cameroun.
Donnez un référendum aux Camerounais e ils( Francophones et Anglophones), voteront une nouvelle Constitution pour la tripartition des pouvoirs autonomes de la République Fédérale ( LEGISLATIVE+ ESSECUTIVE + JUDICIARE)
Donnez un référendum aux Camerounais e ils( Francophones et Anglophones), voteront pour le développement démocratique e politique de la Nation CamerounaiseSee Translation
Donnez un référendum aux Camerounais e ils ( Francophones et Anglophones),voteront pour l'autodétermination de son destin surtout économique hors du system nazi-vichy du F.CFA»
Donnez un référendum aux Camerounais e ils( Francophones et Anglophones), voteront pour la fin de la centralisation e concentration nazi fasciste du pourvoir au Cameroun.
Donnez un référendum aux Camerounais e ils( Francophones et Anglophones), voteront une nouvelle Constitution pour la tripartition des pouvoirs autonomes de la République Fédérale ( LEGISLATIVE+ ESSECUTIVE + JUDICIARE)
Donnez un référendum aux Camerounais e ils( Francophones et Anglophones), voteront pour le développement démocratique e politique de la Nation CamerounaiseSee Translation
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· Ntemfac Ofege Unfortunately Mr Boniface Niba, you are selling after the market. The idea is not to graft designed to fail schemes unto the francophone Jacobin-Napoleonic quagmire. The idea is to restore the independence and statehood of the British Cameroons. This is a matter of DIGNITY.
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· Danielle Guibert L'essentiel est l'accès à l'information. Pour le reste, ne prenons pas les camerounais et camerounaises, francophones et anglophones, où qu'ils vivent, pour plus bêtes qu'ils ne sont. La population est tout à fait capable de percevoir que le pouvoir corrompt. Les politiciens sont armés pour canaliser et récupérer l'énergie populaire du désespoir à leur profit. Quelles personnalités auront une audience assez large aujourd'hui pour s'unir et fédérer les espoirs de la population face au pouvoir de l'argent.See Translation
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· Ntemfac Ofege Foading Kuate, bamileke emotionalism and the British Cameroons Ongoing Independence Process. Professor Carlson Anyangwe once wrote the following lines about the near-hysteria in some bamilekes whenever they hear that British Cameroonians, their umbrella, make a run to restore their state. I quote the Prof. Puzzle. Of all the tribal groups in Republique du Cameroun the Bamileke are the chief opponents of our liberation in the hopeless belief that we can continue to be held captive in their country. This is something of a puzzle. We sheltered people from virtually all the ethnic groups in Republique du Cameroun fleeing bloody French repression and exactions: Bamileke, Ewondo, Bulu, Duala, Bassa, Bafia, and some 'nordistes'. People from these various tribes in Republique du Cameroun did not flee to neighbouring French-speaking countries for reasons they know only too well. They chose to come to us and out of our generosity we welcomed them and settled them among us in a spirit of African brotherhood and solidarity. This is the pay we get from them, especially the Bamileke who constituted the largest group of refugees. Could they have forgotten so easily? Even today, our African French-speaking friends opt for the world of the very Anglo-Saxons they and their French Masters lampoon so often: Australia, Britain, Canada, Ireland, Nigeria, South Africa, and the United States of America. France (or any French-speaking African country for that matter) is not a preferred destination. Those who succeed in making the treacherous Mediterranean crossing to France use that country merely as a transit point to other destinations of preference. It is further puzzling why these people should vote with their feet by going to English-speaking countries and yet instinctively reject the very value systems, the very mindset, the very culture and the very governance model that make those countries so attractive and so inviting.
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· Ntemfac Ofege Prof Anyangwe continues.
The basic 'argument' of the opponents of our freedom is that they too suffer from the same evil we decry; an evil, they say, visited upon everyone by what they themselves admit is a satanic regime; replace that regime with a 'good' one, they maintain, and we shall all be happy ever after. That is a fat lie. The difference between our cause and their case is so patent that even an intellectually weak person can see it. We are a separate and distinct people and country fighting against brutal colonial occupation by a neighbouring country, their country. The only remedy for our forlorn land and condition of captivity is decolonisation, freedom. The coloniser must pack and go! The Bamileke, Bassa, Ewondo, Bulu etc are ethnic groups within Republique du Cameroun. The remedy for their malady in their country lies in good governance, rule of law, and free and fair elections. How they face up to that challenge is their cup of tea not ours, and attempts to enlist our involvement in it in the name of a sorry and content-less brotherhood must be puerile. In a sense their task has been made a lot more easy thanks to the various cases we have instituted against their country's regime as a result of which that regime has time and again been found guilty of gross human rights abuses, including torture and other inhuman treatment, arbitrary arrest and detention, and extra-judicial killings. The judiciary in that country has also been found to be a dependent judiciary completely under the boot of the country's ruler. For us, a new regime that comes to power in that country, even if it is an angelic regime, will not make us discontinue the fight for our manumission so long as that country continues to hold us in terror and captivity. END.
The basic 'argument' of the opponents of our freedom is that they too suffer from the same evil we decry; an evil, they say, visited upon everyone by what they themselves admit is a satanic regime; replace that regime with a 'good' one, they maintain, and we shall all be happy ever after. That is a fat lie. The difference between our cause and their case is so patent that even an intellectually weak person can see it. We are a separate and distinct people and country fighting against brutal colonial occupation by a neighbouring country, their country. The only remedy for our forlorn land and condition of captivity is decolonisation, freedom. The coloniser must pack and go! The Bamileke, Bassa, Ewondo, Bulu etc are ethnic groups within Republique du Cameroun. The remedy for their malady in their country lies in good governance, rule of law, and free and fair elections. How they face up to that challenge is their cup of tea not ours, and attempts to enlist our involvement in it in the name of a sorry and content-less brotherhood must be puerile. In a sense their task has been made a lot more easy thanks to the various cases we have instituted against their country's regime as a result of which that regime has time and again been found guilty of gross human rights abuses, including torture and other inhuman treatment, arbitrary arrest and detention, and extra-judicial killings. The judiciary in that country has also been found to be a dependent judiciary completely under the boot of the country's ruler. For us, a new regime that comes to power in that country, even if it is an angelic regime, will not make us discontinue the fight for our manumission so long as that country continues to hold us in terror and captivity. END.
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· Ntemfac Ofege Entre 2007 et 2014, les nations unies ont dépensé 14 millions de dollars US dans une opération de recréation des bornes indiquant la frontière entre la République du Cameroun, pays qui devint Independent le 1er Janvier 1960 et la British Cameroons, un territoire qui est désormais revenu sous tutelle des nations unies parce que le processus de son Independence a échoué. La responsabilité de l'échec revient entièrement à ceux qui ont plutôt annexe British Southern Cameroons et British Northern Cameroons au lieu de respecter l'Independence de cet état.
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· Danielle Guibert Of course, Mr Ntemfac Ofege, real democracy is the necessary and permanent control of people over any government power.
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· Ntemfac Ofege L'hystérie d'un certain Foading Kuate dans cette conversation s'explique – l'ignorance. Sieur Kuate ne sait pas que posse par la France, la republique du Cameroun, qui est diffèrent du mien a voté CONTRE la 'réunification' en 1961.
La justification de ce vote était simple. La France ne voulait pas que le francophones soit contaminé par les germes de la culture anglo-saxon
Voici de reste les pays qui on vote pour et contre l'unification entre Southern Cameroons et La Republique du Cameroon
Vote on Southern Cameroosn Independence: Resolution 1608 (xv) as submitted by the Fourth Committee, A/4737, and as amended orally by Guinea and Liberia, adopted by the General Assembly on 21 April 1961, meeting 994, by roll-call vote of 64 to 23, with 10 abstentions.
These are the countries that believed that the union of the two Cameroons under a Federal system of two equal states would be a good thing: Afghanistan, Austria, Bolivia, Bulgaria, Burma, Byelorussian SSR, Canada, Ceylon, Chile, Costa Rica, Cuba, Cyprus, Czechoslovakia, Denmark, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Ethiopia, Federation of Malaya, Finland, Ghana, Guinea, Honduras, Hungary, Iceland, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Ireland, Japan, Laos, Lebanon, Liberia, Libya, Mali, Mexico, Morocco, Nepal, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nigeria, Norway, Pakistan, Philippines, Poland, Romania, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Sweden, Thailand, Tunisia, Turkey, Ukrainian SSR, Union of South Africa, USSR, United Arab Republic, United Kingdom, United States, Venezuela, Yemen, and Yugoslavia.
On the other hand, here are the countries that were against such a union, citing the violation of the Trusteeship agreement, and noting that there would be future political (constitutional), socio-cultural and economic problems: Argentina, Belgium, Brazil, Cambodia, Cameroun, Central African Republic, Chad, China, Congo (Brazzaville), Congo (Leopoldville), Dahomey, France, Gabon, Greece, Israel, Ivory Coast, Luxembourg, Madagascar, Niger, Paraguay, Senegal, Upper Volta, and Uruguay.
And there were countries without a position. They included Columbia, El Salvador, Guatemala, Haiti, Italy, Panama, Peru, Portugal, Spain, and Togo. Sources of the information are from the Resolution 1608 (xv) as submitted by the Fourth Committee, A/4737, and as amended orally by Guinea and Liberia, adopted by the General Assembly on 21 April 1961, meeting 994, by roll-call vote of 64 to 23, with 10 abstentions.
La justification de ce vote était simple. La France ne voulait pas que le francophones soit contaminé par les germes de la culture anglo-saxon
Voici de reste les pays qui on vote pour et contre l'unification entre Southern Cameroons et La Republique du Cameroon
Vote on Southern Cameroosn Independence: Resolution 1608 (xv) as submitted by the Fourth Committee, A/4737, and as amended orally by Guinea and Liberia, adopted by the General Assembly on 21 April 1961, meeting 994, by roll-call vote of 64 to 23, with 10 abstentions.
These are the countries that believed that the union of the two Cameroons under a Federal system of two equal states would be a good thing: Afghanistan, Austria, Bolivia, Bulgaria, Burma, Byelorussian SSR, Canada, Ceylon, Chile, Costa Rica, Cuba, Cyprus, Czechoslovakia, Denmark, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Ethiopia, Federation of Malaya, Finland, Ghana, Guinea, Honduras, Hungary, Iceland, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Ireland, Japan, Laos, Lebanon, Liberia, Libya, Mali, Mexico, Morocco, Nepal, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nigeria, Norway, Pakistan, Philippines, Poland, Romania, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Sweden, Thailand, Tunisia, Turkey, Ukrainian SSR, Union of South Africa, USSR, United Arab Republic, United Kingdom, United States, Venezuela, Yemen, and Yugoslavia.
On the other hand, here are the countries that were against such a union, citing the violation of the Trusteeship agreement, and noting that there would be future political (constitutional), socio-cultural and economic problems: Argentina, Belgium, Brazil, Cambodia, Cameroun, Central African Republic, Chad, China, Congo (Brazzaville), Congo (Leopoldville), Dahomey, France, Gabon, Greece, Israel, Ivory Coast, Luxembourg, Madagascar, Niger, Paraguay, Senegal, Upper Volta, and Uruguay.
And there were countries without a position. They included Columbia, El Salvador, Guatemala, Haiti, Italy, Panama, Peru, Portugal, Spain, and Togo. Sources of the information are from the Resolution 1608 (xv) as submitted by the Fourth Committee, A/4737, and as amended orally by Guinea and Liberia, adopted by the General Assembly on 21 April 1961, meeting 994, by roll-call vote of 64 to 23, with 10 abstentions.
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· Danielle Guibert Merci, Mr Ntemgac Ofege, de ces précisions historiques utiles aux jeunes générations pour la compréhension des alliances actuelles.See Translation
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· Ntemfac Ofege Or après avoir voté contre la 'réunification" en 1961, le pétrole est découvert a Victoria Limbe, Southern Cameroons. La France et la République du Cameroun décident alors d'abroger la fédération qui existait que de nom et d'annexer Southern Cameroons. Apres avoir envoyé son armée partout dans Southern Cameroons, le manipulateur Ahidjo concocta un soi-disant referendum ou les 'anglophones' devaient choisi entre OUI et YES si 'ils sont pour ou contre l'état unitaire. Or Ahidjo avait déjà abroge la fédération avant de convoquer le corps électorale pour le referendum.
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· Ntemfac Ofege Le territoire de la British Cameroons concerne les nations unies et le droit international. Les xénophobes francophones s'impliquent dans cette question à leur risque et péril. Vous entendez Foading Kuate.
En 2010 lorsque la Republique du Cameroun, fêtait le cinquantenaire de son Independence l'assemble générale des nations unies envoya son président, le Libyen Triki avec un cadeau spéciale pour M. Biya – deux cartes. La carte de son pays que a eu son Independence le 1er janvier 1960 et la carte de la British Cameroons, pays encore sous tutelle des nations unies. Le message était clair. Les nations unies se charge de lors de décoloniser la British Cameroons surtout de la colonisation francophone.
En 2010 lorsque la Republique du Cameroun, fêtait le cinquantenaire de son Independence l'assemble générale des nations unies envoya son président, le Libyen Triki avec un cadeau spéciale pour M. Biya – deux cartes. La carte de son pays que a eu son Independence le 1er janvier 1960 et la carte de la British Cameroons, pays encore sous tutelle des nations unies. Le message était clair. Les nations unies se charge de lors de décoloniser la British Cameroons surtout de la colonisation francophone.
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· Ntemfac Ofege Maintenant écoutez-moi bien, surtout ceux qui profèrent des menaces. La colonisation est un crime contre l'humanité et je rejette la colonisation francophone. Les francophones n'ont jamais voté pour une fraternité avec les francophones. Les anglophones avaient voté. Or qu'est qui s'est passé pendant cinquante ans ? DON'T TEACH ME YOUR LANGUAGE surtout quand votre 'langue' est la colonisation, la marginalisation, la corruption et j'en passe. Ecoutez-moi bien, otez-vous de mon chemin sinon....
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· Boniface Niba THE HOLY TRINITY IN NATION BUILDING :
Equivalent Constitutional Powers: (1)Legislative +(2) Judiciary + (3) Executive
Democracy: (1)Government By the People,+(2)Government For the People + (3) Government Of the People.
It has been historically proven that the concentration of these three powers in one subject will always result in the fading or disappearrance of the most basic of human rights. (JUSTICE) The people pay the price.
A democratic State of Rights with credible institutions can never prosper without a functional independent and truly autonomous Judicial Power. Social cohesion , national unity, national identiy ,the sense of citizenship, true and active patriotism… are the valued basic bricks essential for nation building. A Nation cannot exist in the absence of a stable constitution that garantees (JUSTICE) and the rule of the law with effective seperation and equal division of power in (1)Legislative +(2) Judiciary + (3) Executive.
"The winner takes it all" mentality has not been good for Nation Building in Cameroon. The original Republican form of state has been slowly transformed into a form of Monarchy via (9)NINE successive modifications of the Constitution to give always more powers to the Executive.
"anyone who has power shall be led to abuse it; (….) and will proceed in the abuse until when he finds an impediment or a limit.(…) for power not be abused, power must be able to arrest power."
Montesquieu; French philosopher in " spirit of the laws " published in 1748
The judge must be apolitical and never lose his independence in a Democracy.
The problem now in both East and West Cameroon Nation building is the absence of an autonomous and autoritative Judge to autorize and organize any refrerndum in Cameroon on a long list of vital issues including those I listed in my previous post.
Equivalent Constitutional Powers: (1)Legislative +(2) Judiciary + (3) Executive
Democracy: (1)Government By the People,+(2)Government For the People + (3) Government Of the People.
It has been historically proven that the concentration of these three powers in one subject will always result in the fading or disappearrance of the most basic of human rights. (JUSTICE) The people pay the price.
A democratic State of Rights with credible institutions can never prosper without a functional independent and truly autonomous Judicial Power. Social cohesion , national unity, national identiy ,the sense of citizenship, true and active patriotism… are the valued basic bricks essential for nation building. A Nation cannot exist in the absence of a stable constitution that garantees (JUSTICE) and the rule of the law with effective seperation and equal division of power in (1)Legislative +(2) Judiciary + (3) Executive.
"The winner takes it all" mentality has not been good for Nation Building in Cameroon. The original Republican form of state has been slowly transformed into a form of Monarchy via (9)NINE successive modifications of the Constitution to give always more powers to the Executive.
"anyone who has power shall be led to abuse it; (….) and will proceed in the abuse until when he finds an impediment or a limit.(…) for power not be abused, power must be able to arrest power."
Montesquieu; French philosopher in " spirit of the laws " published in 1748
The judge must be apolitical and never lose his independence in a Democracy.
The problem now in both East and West Cameroon Nation building is the absence of an autonomous and autoritative Judge to autorize and organize any refrerndum in Cameroon on a long list of vital issues including those I listed in my previous post.
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· Foading Kuate Mr Ntemfac Ofege vous me traitez de quoi?? je vous laisse dans votre masturbation "intellectuel". et tous vos doc en entendant de trouver celui des année 1914 il faut déjà le passer à vos petit fils pour qu'il le conserve parce que peut eux ils vont po...See MoreSee Translation
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· Ahmed Salim le Cameroun n'est ni anglophone, ni francophone!See Translation
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· Boniface Niba NA WHO BE THE TIF MAN FOR THIS CASE ?
Un homme et une femme se rencontrent e décident de se marier. Cinq ans après le mariage sans enfants, la femme se sent négligée e se demande pourquoi. Elle se rend compte que le mariage ne marche pas surtout parce que l'homme s'était marie en cachette avec beaucoup d'autre femmes parmi les quelles une vielle femme blanche francaise. Elle demande donc la séparation mais le marie insiste pour que le mariage, devenu esclavagiste, continue a tout prix e par force parce que l'acte de mariage ha été signé! Elle demande le divorce mais le marie menace de la tuer ! Elle demande d'aller ensemble au tribunal mais le marie dit qu'ils s'en fou ! Selon vous ! Que doit faire cette pauvre femme? Qui est le voyou dans ce cas ? Foading Kuate ?See Translation
Un homme et une femme se rencontrent e décident de se marier. Cinq ans après le mariage sans enfants, la femme se sent négligée e se demande pourquoi. Elle se rend compte que le mariage ne marche pas surtout parce que l'homme s'était marie en cachette avec beaucoup d'autre femmes parmi les quelles une vielle femme blanche francaise. Elle demande donc la séparation mais le marie insiste pour que le mariage, devenu esclavagiste, continue a tout prix e par force parce que l'acte de mariage ha été signé! Elle demande le divorce mais le marie menace de la tuer ! Elle demande d'aller ensemble au tribunal mais le marie dit qu'ils s'en fou ! Selon vous ! Que doit faire cette pauvre femme? Qui est le voyou dans ce cas ? Foading Kuate ?See Translation
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· George Achu Republic of Cameroun wants to make of the two components of the Cameroons a French, not just a francophone country. That is what its assimilation process is all about.
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· Emil Mondoa Violate the terms assimilate then prate bunk about 'ni anglophone ni francophone.' Actually I agree. Southern Cameroons not anglophones joined you to form a federation. You fear the term and introduced the fiction of anglophone.
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· George Achu There is freedom of opinion on this Fb Page, except for those posting immoral material as well as those who use it to blame and accuse the victims of human and people's rights abuse. Among the latter are the people of the annexed state of Southern Cameroons, striving to free themselves from foreign occupation, domination, exploitation and assimilation - the worst form of colonialism (banned by international law). Those encouraging, condoning and abetting this colonization under false pretenses of fraternity on this Page will be unfriended. As colonization is an international high crime (felony), they are intentionally or even purposefully making themselves "accessories after the fact", a related crime.
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· George Achu Under international law, applicable to the occupied state of Southern Cameroons, self-determination (self-government) is an UNALIENABLE RIGHT of "A PEOPLE". The African Union Commission (Tribunal) ruling in, Southern Cameroons v Republique du Cameroun, took judicial notice of this fact in May 2009 - ratified by the General Assembly of African Heads of State in July same year. As a people, their use of this right of autonomy is not subject to any conditions, such as, a historical link, size, economic viability, the will of the majority in a referendum, good leadership, the will of a third party such as Cameroun or the ability of the subjects to shoot their way to freedom. That is why the right is "unalienable" - not subject to conditions, So, determining this right by referendum, as proposed by His Eminence Christian Cardinal Tumi is legally improper. Its use is similar to asking a kidnapped person whether s/he wants the felon to set him/her free. I hope Cardinal Tumi is listening..
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· Moki Monono Mr Jean Marc Soboth thanks for this important post which I have read with sadness. I am a Cameroonian patriot like most anglophones and I read with sadness the lack of comprehension of our francophone brothers towards anglophone problems. Fifty years after independence no road links the North West and South West! Do you francophones think that if we were an independent country for 50 years no tarred road would have linked Bamenda Kumba and Mamfe? All anglophone "things" have been destroyed: Tiko Airport, Limbe Port, Yoke power station, Santa Coffee,Besongabang Airport, Limbe Airport,Produce Marketing Organisation, West Cameroon Hotels Limited, the GRAs, the list is endless. Anglophones have been kept away from all important ministeries for fifty years: Defense, Finance, Foreign Affairs, Public Service, Economy and Plan, Territorial Administration, Secretary General Presidency etc! Francophones find out why anglophones are unhappy!
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· Emil Mondoa The term "anglophone" is meaningless. It has no history, no legal basis. It lacks power. It is a nonsense term introduced by Ahidjo to muddy the waters and confuse a really simple issue to further his designs. Please, good people, eschew that term.
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· Moki Monono The last six SDOs of Limbe have been francophones for the last 20 years. Were we captured in war? All Commanders of the naval base Man o War Bay have been francophones. Francophone Divisional Officers who cannot speak English have been posted to Limbe.
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· Dick Samy Osiris je crois qu'il y a bien logtemps ce prélat de merde est frappé d'une maladie liée à la démenceSee Translation
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· Emil Mondoa Must you be such a Dick, Dick? The Cardinal would still run circles around you intellectually. Dementia indeed!
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· Boniface Niba Un vraie camerounais n'insulte pas les autres dans un important débat publique ! Mons. Dick Samy? Calmez vous !See Translation
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· Moki Monono The absence of courtesy Dick Sammy Osiris towards a Cardinal and a Prince of the Catholic Church whom you describe as " un prelat de merde" is unfortunate. People like Tumi do not make such statements without deep reflection. Let Cameroon reflect on what Tumi has said.
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· Boniface Niba « Dans la fonction public Camerounaise, seulement 8 pour cent des fonctionnaires sont anglophones donc 92 pour cent sont Francophone. Les anglophones sont exclus des postes stratégiques de la république du cameroun au plan interne ! au plan international les anglophones étaient écartés des postes également stratégiques à la foi au sein des associations des hautes juridictions des cours suprêmes qu'au sein des associations internationales dont est membre le parlement du Cameroun : s'agissant des associations dont fait partie ou dont est membre la cour suprême du cameroun : il n'ya aucun anglophone représenté à ACCPUF , aucun anglophone dans AHJUCAF , aucun anglophone dans la comission internationale des cours constitutionnelle il n'y a aucun anglophone , il n'y a aucun anglophone au sein de l'association internationale des cours des comptes aucun anglophone et ceci ne concerne que la francophonie ! au sein maintenant de l'association des juridictions du commonwealth dont est membre la cour suprême ce n'est pas même pas un anglophone qui y est ! mais un francophone ! au sein de l'association des président des parlements où se ratifient d'ailleurs plusieurs conventions internationales à l'insu du peuple il n'ya aucun anglophone , au sein de l'association internationale des secrétaires généraux des assemblées nationales il n'ya aucun anglophone »See Translation
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· George Achu Why would any colonial subject expect equal treatment with citizens of the colonial power? Is it not like a slave expecting the same rights as the slave owners? Is that what the subjects want? They will wait until men have wings to fly.
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· Emil Mondoa Boniface Niba, one of the kids here likened Southern Cameroonians to one of their marginalized Baka tribes. Basically take a number and stand on the line. Such is the deliberate ignorance and arrogance. Marginalization is not the issue just a side effect.
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· Moki Monono As anglophones we have realized that I t is nearly impossible to change and reform Cameroonian bureaucracy, bureaucrats and institutions. It is almost impossible to get a simple reply to any letter written to a government ministry or department. Civil servants are owed salary advances and arrears for years, corruption is endemic, admissions into grand ecoles cost 1million francs, government monies are poorly utilized , unemployment is the norm,
for these and other reasons we want our own state. Federalism is not a crime! All anglophone nations are federations : Great Britain, the U.S., Australia, Nigeria etc.
for these and other reasons we want our own state. Federalism is not a crime! All anglophone nations are federations : Great Britain, the U.S., Australia, Nigeria etc.
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· Elysee Bayigbedeg le débat anglophone est un faux débat, il rejoint celui sur l'équilibre régional qui a fait tant de mal au Cameroun, il fait réculer la méritocratie au profit de régionalité, pour ma part il faut trouver un juste milieu entre le mérite et la prise en compte de toutes les catégories de couches sociales dans la répartition des revenus du pays.See Translation
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· John Fombe Mr Elysée Bayigbedeg sounds to me like someone from the Elysée palace.
The people of La Republic du Cameroun did not and still do not know,
1) that once upon a time a time there was a colonised people under the British, Called Southern Cameroons.
2) the on 1st October 1961 the Southern Cameroons and La Republique du Cameroun joined in an undocumented union to form the Federal Republic of Cameroon which is dead
3) That the National Anthem of Southern Cameroon was and still is different from that of LRC
4) That the First constitution of the FRC was a fake because in the English version of the constitution, it was the Southern Cameroon that united with LRC whereas according to the French version it was Cameroun merdionale that united with LRC
5) That the insult on Anglophones started with that false constitution which stated that the French version was authentic
6) That by that constitution, Southern Cameroonians who spoke English were not authentic Camerounians and, therefore, deprived of constitutional right
My physics teacher in CCAST Bambili, late Dr Aaron Bokossah described ignorance as a frictional force acting tangentially to knowledge.
I did not understand him then. Now I know he was right when I examine what is happening in this country
The people of La Republic du Cameroun did not and still do not know,
1) that once upon a time a time there was a colonised people under the British, Called Southern Cameroons.
2) the on 1st October 1961 the Southern Cameroons and La Republique du Cameroun joined in an undocumented union to form the Federal Republic of Cameroon which is dead
3) That the National Anthem of Southern Cameroon was and still is different from that of LRC
4) That the First constitution of the FRC was a fake because in the English version of the constitution, it was the Southern Cameroon that united with LRC whereas according to the French version it was Cameroun merdionale that united with LRC
5) That the insult on Anglophones started with that false constitution which stated that the French version was authentic
6) That by that constitution, Southern Cameroonians who spoke English were not authentic Camerounians and, therefore, deprived of constitutional right
My physics teacher in CCAST Bambili, late Dr Aaron Bokossah described ignorance as a frictional force acting tangentially to knowledge.
I did not understand him then. Now I know he was right when I examine what is happening in this country
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· John Fombe Long ago, I used to read some francophone newspaper, where in a certain Mr Soboth featured prominently as a journalist.
It was perhaps Dikallo. I very much hope that he is the same Jean-Marc Soboth who is at the origin of this lively debate.
As a journalist especially, and even if he is not the one, he ought to remember that Some times ago, chez nous en France, the President of LRC cried out aloud in public that he was Mitterrand's best pupil (eleve) not even a student (etudient).
Around the same time if not during the same interview he told the French press that a referendum will be the solution to the Anglophone problem. Why did the press in LRC not treat him as a traitor or as foolish as Cardinal Tumi.
It was perhaps Dikallo. I very much hope that he is the same Jean-Marc Soboth who is at the origin of this lively debate.
As a journalist especially, and even if he is not the one, he ought to remember that Some times ago, chez nous en France, the President of LRC cried out aloud in public that he was Mitterrand's best pupil (eleve) not even a student (etudient).
Around the same time if not during the same interview he told the French press that a referendum will be the solution to the Anglophone problem. Why did the press in LRC not treat him as a traitor or as foolish as Cardinal Tumi.
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· John Fombe I wish we citizens whether or not of La Republique du Cameroun should reason from the head and not from the heart as I have often observed
I am anglophone but I am not proud to be. I acquired a certain way of life which is called anglophone culture wh...See More
I am anglophone but I am not proud to be. I acquired a certain way of life which is called anglophone culture wh...See More
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· Ntemfac Ofege Consequently, we have said that the State of Southern Cameroons will be restored come rain or hellfire. So shall it be. Amen.
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· George Achu Southern Cameroonians aka Ambazonians yearning for a nation state with Cameroun are wishful thinkers. They may not know the difference between the three political concepts of state, nation and nation state. While suggesting they "Google" them, I will just simply define them here with a few examples. A STATE is a political entity that has a territory, a people and a government, recognized as such by the United Nations. An example: all members of the United Nations, except those entities having observer status. A NATION consists of a people related by certain factors, the most important being, a common past, a common present, and aspirations to live and strive together. Examples are: the Jews before the creation of the State of Israel in 1948; Southern Sudanese, before their recent secession and independence; the Palestinians; the people of the occupied State of Southern Cameroons (Ambazonia). If such a people control or acquire a territory and form a government recognized by the UN, it becomes a nation state.
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· Moki Monono It is possible that francophone Cameroonians are not aware of the extent to which Anglophones are marginalized. We must continue to educate them about these things. Isn't it curious that even in the Ministry of Foreign Affiars, the Cameroon ambassadors to America and England , countries in which English is the language of expression, the ambassadors are always francophones? Instead of exploiting the bilingual character of Cameroon in its diplomacy and using American educated anglophones in diplomacy we continue to post francophones whose knowledge of English is weak as Ambassadors to anglophone countries?
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· Moki Monono Attn Anike Nokuri
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· George Achu ADDENDUM. NATION STATE: A political entity that has the characteristics of a nation and a state as defined. The result is that there can be a nation without a state as well as a statenation without a n. A state that consists of two or more nationalities (significant groups that want to be separate and apart). Sudan before the secession of Southern Sudan; the hybrid so-called nation state of Cameroun. For instance, Sudan before the secession of Southern Sudan;
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· George Achu CORRECTION. "The second sentence should read, The examples above show that there can be a nation without a state as well as a state without a nation." ...See More
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· George Achu I stated already that anyone encouraging, aiding and abetting the annexation by false pretenses is either an accomplice of the ongoing felony or an accessory after the fact - a felony or misdemeanour. Among the latter are those intentionally using diversionary tactics and defenses such as the occupier's ignorance, discrimination, marginalization, NW/SW divide, threats (I have received a number of them on this Page), etc. Whenever these tactics are used, the moderator of this Page will use his discretion to exclude block them from it - in order to enable a constructive discourse to take place. To be forewarnd is to be forearmed.
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· Emil Mondoa Mola Moki Monono, the "ignorance" of the Camerounese is a ruse. There is a deliberate refusal to learn the facts as they robotically vomit the programming and propaganda that they learned from their political leaders. This iron curtain of lies that envelopes their souls is so thick that long ago I stopped bothering to work with them and to dedicate my political energies towards our total independence.
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· George Achu Correction: In the last sentence, instead of "In these...... read, "In this respect....".
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· John Fombe To all francophones who initiated this debate and all the others who follow the debate.
Please defend your point of view.
To the anglophone, "Silence means consent" It will be recorded that you have recognized your error and have no defence.
Please defend your point of view. Or as it is customary you are saying that:
"toute la verite n'est pas bonne a dire" ou bien encore "c'est pas grave"
There is one thing I admire in francophone culture:
"Vous avez votre droite de reponse".I can only guess the meaning since I hardly hear it in English and my French is poor
Please defend your point of view.
To the anglophone, "Silence means consent" It will be recorded that you have recognized your error and have no defence.
Please defend your point of view. Or as it is customary you are saying that:
"toute la verite n'est pas bonne a dire" ou bien encore "c'est pas grave"
There is one thing I admire in francophone culture:
"Vous avez votre droite de reponse".I can only guess the meaning since I hardly hear it in English and my French is poor
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· Ntemfac Ofege When confronted with supreme facts as have been presented herein our francophone colonizers and occupiers have no defense. Most often than not the Jacobin Napoleonic types dare not the face facts and the law in this case and many other cases. We've let...See More
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· Ntemfac Ofege Moreover this is not an issue between anglophones and francophones. This is an issue that draws its legitimacy from international law. This is an issue being resolved by the Secretariat General of the UN to the benefit of Ambazonians. All history and historical treaties aside between 2003 and 2009, fourteen Ambazonians dragged the Biya regime to the African Commission on Human and Peoples Rights and charged that regime with colonization. Dion Ngute, Kamto, Owona Joseph, etc represented La Republique. The case went back and forth for 6 years and La Republique LOST. The Biya regime was order, among other things, to pay compensation to all businesses in Ambazonia that they have excluded for 50 years. Can they pay? France has even offered to pay for them! Hollande's visit of last night is related to the issue. Instead one Issa Tchiroma went to the Camerounese media and lied that La Republique won. I repeat since 2006 the UN General Secretariat has been working overtime to recover the State of British Cameroons.
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· Ntemfac Ofege Patrice Nouma on the Southern Cameroons' case and the deception by the Biya's Regime, the petition by 600 Southern Cameroons Lawyers on federation in the Cameroons .... please watch the video and tap into the truth exposed by a former Military Man, a citizen of La Republique du Cameroon who is fade up with the system and knows the inside/out and has a mastery of the history of the Cameroons.... Stay blessed Patrice Nouma.... More strength to you .....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxcYOua1Qts
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· Ntemfac Ofege PARAGRAPHS 178 and 179 of the 2009 ACHPR Banjul Ruling specifically banned all foreigners (francophones especially) from meddling in the internal affairs of Southern Cameroons as they do so carelessly in here. Read those resolutions for yourselves.
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Ntemfac Ofege 178. The Commission states that after thorough analysis of the arguments and literature, it finds that the people of Southern Cameroon can legitimately claim to be a "people". Besides the individual rights
due to Southern Cameroon[ians], they have a distinct identity which attracts certain collective rights.
The UNESCO Group of Experts report referred to hereinabove, states that for a collective of individuals to constitute a "people" they need to manifest some, or all the identified attributes. The Commission agrees with the Respondent State that a "people" may manifest ethno-anthropological attributes. Ethno- anthropological attributes may be added to the characteristics of a "people". Such attributes are necessary only when determining indigenology of a "people"[quote], but cannot be used
as the only determinant factor to accord or deny the enjoyment or protection of peoples' rights.
Was [sic] it the intention of the State Parties to rely on ethno-anthropological roots only to determine [quote]"peoples' rights," they would have said so in the African Charter? As it is, the African Charter
guarantees equal protection to people on the continent, including other racial groups whose ethnoanthropological roots are not African.
179. Based on that reasoning, the Commission finds that "the people of Southern Cameroon" qualify to be referred to as a"people" because they manifest numerous characteristics and affinities, which include a common history, linguistic tradition, territorial connection and political outlook. More importantly they identify themselves as a people with a separate and distinct identity. Identity is an innate characteristic within a people. It is up to other external people to recognise such existence, but
not to deny it. LET THIS BE VERY CLEAR.
due to Southern Cameroon[ians], they have a distinct identity which attracts certain collective rights.
The UNESCO Group of Experts report referred to hereinabove, states that for a collective of individuals to constitute a "people" they need to manifest some, or all the identified attributes. The Commission agrees with the Respondent State that a "people" may manifest ethno-anthropological attributes. Ethno- anthropological attributes may be added to the characteristics of a "people". Such attributes are necessary only when determining indigenology of a "people"[quote], but cannot be used
as the only determinant factor to accord or deny the enjoyment or protection of peoples' rights.
Was [sic] it the intention of the State Parties to rely on ethno-anthropological roots only to determine [quote]"peoples' rights," they would have said so in the African Charter? As it is, the African Charter
guarantees equal protection to people on the continent, including other racial groups whose ethnoanthropological roots are not African.
179. Based on that reasoning, the Commission finds that "the people of Southern Cameroon" qualify to be referred to as a"people" because they manifest numerous characteristics and affinities, which include a common history, linguistic tradition, territorial connection and political outlook. More importantly they identify themselves as a people with a separate and distinct identity. Identity is an innate characteristic within a people. It is up to other external people to recognise such existence, but
not to deny it. LET THIS BE VERY CLEAR.
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